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Software update 2.11.38 for S5/S9

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    isazi Moderator
    last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 18:22

    Those are my training runs/walk around the neighborhood, always the same few since 2015 or so, so I know what to expect in terms of accuracy. I’m not aiming at scientific comparisons, mostly at show me where I have been on the satellite view and don’t make me swim in canals and lakes.

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      nseslija Bronze Member @isazi
      last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 19:03

      @isazi same thing, test walks in the neighborhood, regular walking paths three days in a row, two times BeiDou and one with GPS only. All three were very bad, one of the worst, if not the worst, with S9B… I hard reset the watch yesterday…and will try next week again… I hope to have better results…

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        A Former User @Guest
        last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 19:41

        @mountainChris Good theory re: cold wrists. Trouble is, I’ve been having issues even during much warmer months like September and October in New York, and neither my Polar, nor Garmin, nor even Suunto 7 seemed to suffer during coldest time in January and February.

        I think S9 high profile and a wobble it introduces does play a role. But I definitely don’t remember it being that much of a problem soon after the initial release. Nor do I remember this being an issue that much on Spartans.

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          sartoric Moderator
          last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 21:50

          I would say that the real utility of the wrist warmer is not to keep the wrist warm, but to keep the watch firm 🙂

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            Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
            last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 22:06

            @sartoric I have the same observation when using long sleeves that have a cutout for thumb - I like to use this cutout for watch and hardly ever experience strange ohr readings with this setup.

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              surfboomerang @nseslija
              last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 07:07

              @nseslija keep us informed. I did a soft reset and tried GPS only. It was acceptable but not great. Galileo and Glonass were both horrible. They were ok before the firmware update.

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                Saketo Nemo Moderator
                last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 07:33

                I took two 10-minute walks, round trip and the track was very good.
                Running on the same pre-upgrade route, however, the first track was better, the second worst (yesterday, very cloudy, this also counts).
                I’m curious to try again only GPS and GPS + Galileo.

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                  ___Alejandro___ @sartoric
                  last edited by ___Alejandro___ 30 Mar 2020, 07:45

                  @sartoric Actually, these wristbands are not designed to keep your wrists warm. Oddly enough, because the wrists do not get cold so fast, these wrist bands (from X-bionic) are supposed to regulate the heat flow from the wrists in order to cool you down (so called, evaporation cooling effect 👨‍🔬 ). That’s the theory according to the company. It’s science, man!

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                    sartoric Moderator @___Alejandro___
                    last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 08:09

                    @Alejandro
                    Yep, I know, but remember “It cools when you sweat. It warms when you are cold”
                    😁 😁 😁

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                      ___Alejandro___ @sartoric
                      last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 12:47

                      @sartoric Ah! Yes, I see… 🙃 😆

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                        nseslija Bronze Member @nseslija
                        last edited by nseslija 30 Mar 2020, 14:02

                        @surfboomerang I went for a walk today on my stanard route using Beidou, and the track is much better then the first three were prior the reset. it was on the same level like good tracks with the previous firmware. If I’m able to I will do the same walk tomorrow… The hiking is now impossible, the cycling is questionable… but with this couple of walks (flat) it seems that Fusdalti is improved…

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                          jsr184 Bronze Member @Michał Rudzki
                          last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 15:44

                          @Michał-Rudzki from IG Suunto’s reply about future of Spartan line:
                          Screenshot_20200330-164159_Instagram.jpg
                          It is quite clear what it means (at least to me).

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                            A Former User @nseslija
                            last edited by A Former User 30 Mar 2020, 17:25

                            @nseslija … about bad tracks and restart…

                            Strange. I never had a bad track on my S9 and never had to reset the watch. Never…
                            My S9 runs like a machine. Precision built-in…

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                              surfboomerang @nseslija
                              last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 18:39

                              @nseslija I will try to hard-reset the watch tomorrow. See if that solves the issue

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                                nseslija Bronze Member @Guest
                                last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 19:01

                                @mountainChris Between upgrade and clean install I will always choose clean install… this things can happen…If it is an upgrade issue at all… 😀
                                Regarding the S9B… yes, it is a good watch, accurate and reliable , I really like it…

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                                  nseslija Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                                  last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 19:06

                                  @surfboomerang I am still not sure if it’s the hard reset that changes things for the better. If it is not a bother for you give it a try…

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                                    last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 20:12

                                    @surfboomerang no hard reset is needed to improve GPS etc. That is placebo

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                                      surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 20:16

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Ok, thanks… saves me a lot of time 🙂

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                                        last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 20:18

                                        @surfboomerang yup buddy no need todo. However, a soft reset aka reboot could help in case anything in the system is going wonkers.

                                        A reboot wipes the GPS’s chips internal memery of AGPS data and it’s own cache.

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                                          johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                          last edited by johann.fuehrer 31 Mar 2020, 01:18

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos how do I force an update of the AGPS data (i.e. after a soft reset)? Sync with Suunto App, “Soak” data from the satellites by going into prestart mode for some xxx minutes (12.5 minutes I think to remember is the minimum possible - checked: https://www.novatel.com/support/known-solutions/gnss-ephemerides-and-almanacs/)?

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