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    olymay Gold Members @BinoWorld UK
    last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 11:20

    @optics-field-test Most Apple users are either unaware it happens, or unwilling to accept it (I say this as I have a friend who not accept any bad word against Apple, ever! And some of his buddies are similar).

    However, at the end of the day, as long as the battery indicator is consistent and gives a stable readout, does it really matter? If it says 10% left and you know that equates to roughly 4 hours of regular use, so what?

    I guess my point is that every watch and battery will behave differently. The only thing that can be compared is the total life of the device. A battery indicator is exactly that, an indicator.

    There are probably apps will tell you the exact voltage of the battery and we could then extrapolate that to a percentage based on the specific data and graphs for that particular battery.
    Or we could use an approximate readout calculated and provided by the manufacturer ๐Ÿ™‚

    (one final thing to note with batteries. when the percentage indicator on any device gets to 0%, the battery itself is not at 0%. If we were tlet a LI-ion battery actually get to 0% this would cause serious damage to the battery, would stop it working ever again, and could in fact be quite dangerous. All devices are designed to stop this from happening and will shutdown long before this happens.)

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      BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @olymay
      last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 11:44

      @olymay Great insight to the world of battery mate.

      I am not loyal to Apple in fact , I sold my S6 to the Suunto 7. I just go with what is right for me.

      I am pretty happy with my S7 and itโ€™s seems to be improving one charge after another.

      Itโ€™s a lovely watch but i wish that could add one more feature that I miss badly. Alt/Barometer tile.

      Wishful thinking! Apps out there are absolutely rubbish non of them can Barotrack which means knowing when to switch from Alti to Barometer and vis versa. I am hoping Suunto can implement a proper Alt/Baro tile with storm alarm and auto switch between Baro & Altimeter

      Finger crossed!

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        olymay Gold Members @BinoWorld UK
        last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 11:53

        @optics-field-test No worries ๐Ÿ™‚ I am by no means an expert on batteries (far from it in fact!), I used to work mostly on High Voltage systems. These days I am Thermographic Specialist and I spend more time looking at electrical systems than I do touching them ๐Ÿ™‚

        Iโ€™m a Google user through and through, but I have many friends who use Apple. They both have their pros and cons, whatever works best for a person is the best device for them ๐Ÿ™‚

        Yeah, a proper ali/baro tile would be nice as Iโ€™ve seen a number of people asking for it. Would be mostly useless for me, as itโ€™s pretty flat where I live. But a baro trend and alert would be handy for when I get back out sailing.
        Iโ€™ve tried both the BaroTrend app from the Play Store and the one thatโ€™s on XDA and whilst both are good, they are also both lacking key features (and I find they hog a bit too much battery).

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          BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @olymay
          last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 12:29

          @olymay most definitely if you sailing a Baro trend is the way to go.

          I use mostly for weather forecasting and hiking.

          I have a friend of mine who developed the best Alti/Barometer app ever and itโ€™s available on the App Store https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/alti-barometer/id1481021960

          I was a beta tester for months in months!

          If only Suunto can learn one or two things out of this ๐Ÿค“

          Cheers

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            olymay Gold Members @BinoWorld UK
            last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 13:32

            @optics-field-test said in Battery LIfe:

            @olymay most definitely if you sailing a Baro trend is the way to go.

            Yeah, super helpful when sailing - especially the long distance ocean stuff that I do.

            I use mostly for weather forecasting and hiking.

            For weather forecasting I use a mixture of:

            • Met Office (brilliant for UK)
            • Windy / Windfinder
            • RainToday (sadly no longer available on the play store, but itโ€™s available as an APK.) One of the best rain radars Iโ€™ve ever used.

            I have a friend of mine who developed the best Alti/Barometer app ever and itโ€™s available on the App Store https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/alti-barometer/id1481021960

            That looks GREAT!! If you know the developer, maybe you could lean on them to develop it for Android and WearOS? ๐Ÿ˜‰
            If it works as well as it looks then I for one would be happy to pay for it ๐Ÿ™‚

            I was a beta tester for months in months!

            If only Suunto can learn one or two things out of this ๐Ÿค“

            Cheers

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            Suunto App Beta (Android - Pixel 6 Pro)

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              BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @olymay
              last edited by BinoWorld UK 30 Nov 2021, 13:37

              @olymay oh mate this app works like a dream machine!

              The developer is very experienced with Barometer apps.

              He also recently developed an app for Davis weather rations owners called PWS. Unfortunately, I am nowhere near being a developer ๐Ÿ˜‚

              He is based in the US! Long shot I am afraid.

              Perhaps we can hook him with Suunto๐Ÿค“

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                olymay Gold Members @BinoWorld UK
                last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 13:41

                @optics-field-test said in Battery LIfe:

                @olymay oh mate this app works like a dream machine!

                The developer is very experienced with Barometer apps.

                He also recently developed an app for Davis weather rations owners called PWS. Unfortunately, I am nowhere near being a developer ๐Ÿ˜‚

                He is based in the US! Long shot I am afraid.

                Perhaps we can hook him with Suunto๐Ÿค“

                Definitely worth dropping them a message to ask if they would develop for Android and WearOS ๐Ÿ™‚
                I would be happy to join you in a beta test, and I would be happy to pay for the app if it works as well as you say it does.
                Iโ€™ve seen plenty of requests on these forums, on XDA, and on Facebook of people wanting a decent alti/baro app, so there should hopefully be enough of a market for him ๐Ÿ™‚

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                  BinoWorld UK Bronze Member
                  last edited by 3 Dec 2021, 06:53

                  @olymay Hi mate, I was experimenting the last few days with airplane mode on & off.

                  During my sleep, I have sleep tracking on, HR and DND on.

                  It seems like when I am connected to my IPhone 11pro max overnight the watch lose about 12% battery.

                  Airplane mode turned on the battery only went down by 6% in six hours sleep.

                  This indicates that my Bluetooth connexion is the culprit. This result is also confirmed in my battery stats. Bluetooth being at the top with 17% consumption.

                  Do you have any idea how to correct this?

                  Many thanks

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                    olymay Gold Members @BinoWorld UK
                    last edited by 3 Dec 2021, 09:18

                    @optics-field-test some quick calcs:

                    You lose approx 12% battery overnight (I donโ€™t know long you are sleeping so will assume 8hrs).
                    Therefore 12 / 8 = 1.5% loss per hour

                    That doesnโ€™t sound to bad to me (for a WearOS device).

                    One thing I do differently to you is to put the watch into cinema mode overnight. This turns off the display and puts it into DnD mode. It doesnโ€™t turn off bluetooth.

                    I donโ€™t use an iPhone so Iโ€™m not able to offer any thoughts on settings for this ( @Brad_Olwin is an iPhone user who may be able to help?).

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                      BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @olymay
                      last edited by 3 Dec 2021, 09:32

                      @olymay same here I also put it on Cinema mode including the rest but the Bluetooth seem to be heavy overnight. I sleep an average of 6h38

                      Last night 6h:11

                      Thanks

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                        BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @olymay
                        last edited by BinoWorld UK 12 May 2021, 12:52 5 Dec 2021, 11:25

                        @olymay hi there

                        My Bluetooth continue to drain my battery itโ€™s 26% usage. Number battery hugger

                        Anything you would recommend?

                        Thanks

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                          MeazzaS9 @BinoWorld UK
                          last edited by 5 Dec 2021, 17:30

                          @optics-field-test hello, curiosity โ€ฆ what phone do you have?
                          I may have solved a similar problem.

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                            BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @MeazzaS9
                            last edited by 6 Dec 2021, 06:17

                            @meazzas9 Hi, itโ€™s an IPhone 11 Pro Max

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                              olymay Gold Members @BinoWorld UK
                              last edited by 6 Dec 2021, 09:13

                              @optics-field-test said in Battery LIfe:

                              @olymay hi there

                              My Bluetooth continue to drain my battery itโ€™s 26% usage. Number battery hugger

                              Anything you would recommend?

                              Thanks

                              Hi, sorry, Iโ€™m pretty much out of ideas now ๐Ÿ˜ž

                              Iโ€™m not a developer or anything to do with Suunto, Iโ€™m just an enthusiastic user like yourself.

                              It might be worth speaking to of the iPhone users to see if they can help? If all else fails, Suunto support are very good and helpful.

                              I hope you get it fixed ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @olymay
                                last edited by BinoWorld UK 12 Jul 2021, 19:55 7 Dec 2021, 19:52

                                @olymay Thanks chap.

                                Update: I am not sure whatโ€™s happening but I had an update come through few days ago. something to do with Google I think.

                                Since, my Bluetooth is now the lowest battery consumption at 2% and my battery seem to be holding amazing. After a full charge and about three hours in to standby, my battery estimation is at 3 days.

                                Also, I think I left my Wifi by mistake on auto mode and I am starting to think that it could well be that my Bluetooth disconnecting from the phone is now being supported by the Wifi hence the lower Bluetooth consumption

                                Very strange

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                                  olymay Gold Members @BinoWorld UK
                                  last edited by 8 Dec 2021, 08:32

                                  @binoworld-uk I have no idea what would cause that change but itโ€™s GREAT NEWS!! ๐Ÿ˜

                                  The update you mention is probably a Google Play update and these are fairly regular. If so I donโ€™t see how it would affect anything to do with Bluetooth.

                                  Maybe the wifi setting could be the answer? I leave my wifi setting on auto all of the time (it only uses it when the watch is on charge I believe), but maybe you could test it by leaving it as is for a few days to make sure all is good, and then turn the wifi off again to see if it reverts back to previous battery life?

                                  Either way, Iโ€™m really happy for you ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    MeazzaS9 @BinoWorld UK
                                    last edited by 8 Dec 2021, 11:08

                                    @binoworld-uk i had a similar problem with android, specifically Samung (A40 and A20S).
                                    consumption also reached 19/20% due to bluetooth.
                                    I tried to reset the phone, change it but the problem remained โ€ฆ restarting it seemed to go fine but after 2 days it returned as before.
                                    Now for work I had to change phone (also for this problem) and my choice fell on Realme GT NEO2 - android.
                                    It is now 10 days that it is always connected, monitoring always active and the battery lasts for 2 days (without particular activities), I put in airplane mode only at night, the average consumption of the BT is 2/3% on the whole charge.
                                    Now it comes to my mind that Samsung has some problems with bluetooth connections, can it be so?
                                    In your case, either you have installed some energy-intensive app or some Apple update that has upset the whole thing.

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                                      olymay Gold Members
                                      last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 17:50

                                      Just done a battery test on my S7. 100% fully charged down to 5%.
                                      No activities recorded (resting a sore achillies) so was perfect for checking regular battery consumption.
                                      Settings:
                                      AoD OFF
                                      Power saver tilt to wake ON
                                      Continuous HR ON
                                      Sleep tracking ON
                                      Bluetooth always ON
                                      WiFi AUTO
                                      Lots of notifications throughout the day
                                      Cinema mode at night
                                      App updates AUTO
                                      Brightness AUTO
                                      Solstice watch face
                                      No third party apps installed
                                      (If Iโ€™ve forgotten anything important please ask)

                                      Charged to 100% and removed from charger at 1100 GMT on Saturday 11th December.
                                      Got the warning notification of 5% battery at 1742 on Monday 13th December.
                                      Therefore, 100% to 5% took 54hrs and 42mins.

                                      MIGHTY IMPRESSED!!! ๐Ÿ˜€

                                      Screenshot_20211213-174130.png

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                                        JANTIKAINEN Bronze Member @olymay
                                        last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 18:25

                                        @olymay
                                        Very good, similar what I get when I enable airplane and cinema mode at night.

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                                          BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @olymay
                                          last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 19:13

                                          @olymay thatโ€™s a stellar result!!

                                          I think mine could get to that result if I ever let it go down to 5% ๐Ÿคฃ

                                          I tend to top it up at around 30%

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