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    freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by 12 Dec 2020, 18:49

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
    ok, so maybe she started the activity too quick, without letting the satellites to sattle and let fusedalti do its work?
    we’ll observe this 👍

    living sideways

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
      last edited by 12 Dec 2020, 18:53

      @TELE-HO yes. This can happen after a reboot also.

      But should not on the s7 as it has a barometer.

      Not 100% sure to be honest what’s going on. First time I kinda of see this for the s7. But you never know.

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        Kurt68 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by Kurt68 22 Jan 2021, 10:05

        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I have the same problem. Today I started a training session and waited 4 minutes. I climbed 40m without moving. Then I finished the training and started a new one, waited 2min and started running. this time there was an acent of 24m on the first flat 200m. On the whole lap then 72m more than with the Ambit 3.

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          Jakub Novotný
          last edited by Jakub Novotný 22 Jan 2021, 10:41

          Hi, I have Suunto 7 for 3 days. Is there any possibility to calibrate altimeter/barometer as I am used with Ambit 2? I haven’t found this possibility so it seems that it is done only automatically through FusedAlti.

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            isazi Moderator @Jakub Novotný
            last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 13:05

            @jakub-novotný said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

            Hi, I have Suunto 7 for 3 days. Is there any possibility to calibrate altimeter/barometer as I am used with Ambit 2? I haven’t found this possibility so it seems that it is done only automatically through FusedAlti.

            I don’t think it is possible at the moment, but some third-party altimeters seem to let you do that.

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              Egika Platinum Member @isazi
              last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 13:07

              I wonder if the S7 does the same automatic altitude and pressure tracking as other Suunto watches do it.
              Slow pressure changes are regarded as weather change and quicker changes are regarded as altitude change…

              Does anyone know how it is handled internally when not in training mode?

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                Luca Bellardo @Egika
                last edited by 23 Jan 2021, 23:05

                @egika In my opinion the S7 does not perform any altitude monitoring. I have tested with a third party altimeter, it updates very infrequently and sometimes it seems to me that it does not take the calibration that happens with Suunto rigs. Perfect altitude instead during the activities! (often compared with S9 cheater). Too bad, I too would like an altimeter management as it was for the Ambit series and as it is for S9 … In the end I have always considered Suunto first of all altimeters, to which they added the GPS starting from the series Ambit (which I’ve all had!)

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Luca Bellardo
                  last edited by 23 Jan 2021, 23:46

                  @luca-bellardo said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                  @egika In my opinion the S7 does not perform any altitude monitoring. I have tested with a third party altimeter, it updates very infrequently and sometimes it seems to me that it does not take the calibration that happens with Suunto rigs. Perfect altitude instead during the activities! (often compared with S9 cheater). Too bad, I too would like an altimeter management as it was for the Ambit series and as it is for S9 … In the end I have always considered Suunto first of all altimeters, to which they added the GPS starting from the series Ambit (which I’ve all had!)

                  You are incorrect, the S7 uses FusedAlti. I have many examples of corrections and virtually all of my S7 altitude profiles match my S9 baro. I often wear both watches.

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                    olymay Gold Members
                    last edited by 23 Jan 2021, 23:47

                    I haven’t noticed any issues with the altitude recorded by my Suunto 7.

                    For example, today I did a run along a local canal and at a defined point I turned around and came bac along the exact same route.
                    As expected a canal is pretty flat, and the watch recorded only 3m of altitude change (I ran 8.6km out and back with a total of 17.2km).
                    The plot of altitude change is also symmetrical, as one would expect.

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                      Egika Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 05:19

                      @brad_olwin said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                      @luca-bellardo said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                      @egika In my opinion the S7 does not perform any altitude monitoring. I have tested with a third party altimeter, it updates very infrequently and sometimes it seems to me that it does not take the calibration that happens with Suunto rigs. Perfect altitude instead during the activities! (often compared with S9 cheater). Too bad, I too would like an altimeter management as it was for the Ambit series and as it is for S9 … In the end I have always considered Suunto first of all altimeters, to which they added the GPS starting from the series Ambit (which I’ve all had!)

                      You are incorrect, the S7 uses FusedAlti. I have many examples of corrections and virtually all of my S7 altitude profiles match my S9 baro. I often wear both watches.

                      Maybe misunderstanding:
                      Luca states that during activity, altitude registration is Suunto state of the art.
                      Just not when not recording.
                      And that was my question: S9 has an automatic altitude measurement that I can have on the watch face and that follows weather changes and switches to altitude change when quickly moving uphill or downhill.
                      How does S7 handle the altitude measurement when not recording an activity?

                      Cheers!

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                        Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
                        last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 12:24

                        I find this situation unacceptable, a product that costs almost 500 euros has all these problems …

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                          Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
                          last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 12:27

                          i am very disappointed i bought suunto 7 i believe i will switch to garmin immediately!

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                            Jamie BG Bronze Member @Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
                            last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 12:38

                            @andrea-antonio-guadalupi if you are looking for a pure fitness watch you have made a wrong purchase choice. It’s a full smartwatch first, with good fitness tracking. Much better than anything on full smartwatch, but on low to mid tier on fitness watches, with easier to understand, more simplified metrics for the more complex fitness metrics. But does have some of the best offline maps, which I think confuses some buyers as they think it’s similar to fenix etc. It isn’t and that isn’t is market.

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                              Jamie BG Bronze Member @Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
                              last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 12:39

                              @andrea-antonio-guadalupi what problems? Most of us don’t have these issues. Not sure this isn’t an expectation issue.

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Egika
                                last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 14:12

                                @egika I had an altimeter app on the watch for a long time, it does a very good job of providing the altitude for where I live, that is about all I know. This was while not recording an activity.

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
                                  last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 14:12

                                  @andrea-antonio-guadalupi said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                                  I find this situation unacceptable, a product that costs almost 500 euros has all these problems …

                                  could you list all of the problems?

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                                    Egika Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 19:10

                                    @brad_olwin said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                                    @egika I had an altimeter app on the watch for a long time, it does a very good job of providing the altitude for where I live, that is about all I know. This was while not recording an activity.

                                    Yeah, so probably the whole altitude and baro handling is done by WearOS and 3rd party apps. So probably no intelligent filtering and automatic changeover from baro to alti… 😔

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                                      pilleus @Egika
                                      last edited by pilleus 24 Jan 2021, 19:15

                                      @egika said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                                      the whole altitude and baro handling is done by WearOS and 3rd party apps

                                      I think so. Since I installed Alti-Barometer app with automatic altitude calibration the altitude reading and ascent are great. Start and end altitude are correct and ascent and descent too. 👍

                                      But in Ghostracer I must calibrate the barometer even if the Alti-Barometer app does it before.

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                                        Andrea Antonio Guadalupi @pilleus
                                        last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 21:15

                                        @pilleus alti-barometer app???

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                                          pilleus @Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
                                          last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 21:27

                                          @andrea-antonio-guadalupi

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