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    nseslija Bronze Member @Cuba1hr
    last edited by 2 May 2020, 13:02

    @Cuba1hr since the last update Beidou only, walks are most challenging, arm movement and slow speed… when your amr is in the pocket the results are better. Tracks when cycling are great. Haven’t hike yet, COVID lockdown…

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      Cuba1hr
      last edited by Cuba1hr 5 Feb 2020, 13:28 2 May 2020, 13:16

      Thank you both, I have to test GPS+Beidou for a run session. Soon…

      I know, but to miss that much, even with waiting after acquiring the signal.
      GPS+Beidou

      20200502_151258.jpg

      BTW, I was moving on that road most to the right, not the road nearest to the buildings.

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        nseslija Bronze Member @Cuba1hr
        last edited by 2 May 2020, 13:30

        @Cuba1hr it could drift on the watch wearing side… and I think it is normal when the watch is, lets say, in this position /- for a longer time, if you look at the watch more often and the watch is leveled you will be back on track…

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          Cuba1hr
          last edited by Cuba1hr 5 Feb 2020, 14:02 2 May 2020, 13:54

          @nseslija
          I know, but that is too much…for 2020 and such amount of $$$. Then the watch I bought for GPS and OHR is practically trash and I am (along with others) a sucker in the end. It is not worth that kind of money for such performance. For 600-700$ watch I would expect the spot on positioning and heart rate monitoring.

          I had never such thing on any of my previous (cheaper) GPS devices. That “middle of the building” is …I guess more than 20 meters away from the second road where I was. On the way back, couple of hours later, it was better, but not perfect.
          If it acts like that here and there…it just cannot be used for data comparisons.

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            nseslija Bronze Member @Cuba1hr
            last edited by nseslija 5 Mar 2020, 05:57 2 May 2020, 18:32

            @Cuba1hr I totally disagree, the watch is great, and I don’t think that I am a sucker 😂😂. The S9B is really good for everything I am using it for, cycling, hiking (with route navigation), pool swimming, indoor cycling and walking. It is accurate and reliable. Maybe you expecting to much for such a small device.

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              freeheeler @nseslija
              last edited by 2 May 2020, 18:54

              @nseslija
              my tracks are also very good! (GPS+QZSS by default, but I’m not in Japan 😉 ) very slow cycling uphills in the forest… the precision is sometimes a bit off the road, maybe 3-4m, not more and for sure nothing to complain about. Suunto team did a great job on that 👍

              living sideways

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
                last edited by 3 May 2020, 08:47

                @TELE-HO qzss is visible also in eu

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Cuba1hr
                  last edited by 3 May 2020, 08:49

                  @Cuba1hr that doesn’t look well not sure what to say here but it looks like indeed you don’t get good accuracy here. I would like to see the complete picture though.

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                    Cuba1hr
                    last edited by Cuba1hr 5 Mar 2020, 17:54 3 May 2020, 17:52

                    I went for a short walk by the sea to calibrate the altitude, it was 10m off - 2m above the sea it was showing 12m.

                    So, short walk (about 300 m), synced with app, waited after signal acquiring, again GPS + Beidou, unfortunately I didn’t go back to check only GPS + QZSS.

                    It is again way off on the first walk, then better on the second, but it missed the turn on the road completely to the finish on the second image.
                    comparison.jpg

                    The start on the first is on the left side of that road (not on the building more than 10 meters away), just like the line on the second image just before the end.
                    I said, it is a hit or miss.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Cuba1hr
                      last edited by 3 May 2020, 18:00

                      @Cuba1hr I did a run with A3P, S9B and S5 yesterday. The distances were very close and the tracks of S9B and A3P are very similar. GPS only on S9B. I can post some photos if you like.

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                        Cuba1hr
                        last edited by 3 May 2020, 18:35

                        @Brad_Olwin It’s not necessary just because of me. I will try the day after tomorrow to test GPS vs GPS+Beidou again.
                        It is something like some of you were writing before, better accuracy on GPS only vs Galileo.

                        Dimitoris was praising GPS+Beidou while testing, even before the official firmware was out (as were some of you others after), so I expected it to be closer to…again my other watch, and to be consistent. Maybe only GPS would be better, but you would expect 2 system together to be better than one…don’t know what else to write. I will try that on tuesday and with run.

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Cuba1hr
                          last edited by 3 May 2020, 18:40

                          @Cuba1hr I believe the coverage is location dependent. I am in Colorado, US and I have not seen any significant improvement with multiple satellite systems over GPS.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            Cuba1hr
                            last edited by Cuba1hr 5 Mar 2020, 18:50 3 May 2020, 18:47

                            I am in south central Europe (eastern some would say😁 ) and I had big expectations of Galileo. In the end was a bit disappointed. I hoped that 2 systems would catch up with the GPS only on SirfStar IV chipset and to be close.

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Cuba1hr
                              last edited by 3 May 2020, 19:02

                              @Cuba1hr I think for Dimitrios in N Eastern Europe Beidou is as good as SirfStar.

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                Cuba1hr @Brad_Olwin
                                last edited by 3 May 2020, 19:05

                                @Brad_Olwin
                                I am a bit on the NW more, couple of states:)
                                You saw my screenshots. Let’s not waste posts until I test more.

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                                  Cuba1hr
                                  last edited by Cuba1hr 5 May 2020, 18:34 5 May 2020, 18:33

                                  Hi guys I sold my S9B so I won’t test anymore.

                                  Thank you once again for all of your help, I am going back to the “neighboring camp” again, with my previous watch and complete platform at the moment…with my eyes on their newest release, expecting new reviews considering GPS accuracy to make decision about the purchase again.

                                  When I got S9 I was unaware of Movescount abandonment, finicky light activation while running (2 wet fingers/gloves tap), disappointment in daily battery life with HR tracking and GPS issues I had considering the price.
                                  Maybe one day I will be back to Suunto. I wish Suunto will be able to fix most of the bugs mentioned here on this forum and add new features via SuuntoPlus to you.

                                  I will keep following the forum and hopefully continue using QS too.
                                  Goodbye for now.

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                                    freeheeler @Cuba1hr
                                    last edited by 5 May 2020, 18:52

                                    @Cuba1hr said in GPS bugs on Suunto9:

                                    I wish Suunto will be able to fix most of the bugs mentioned here

                                    thank you, I wish that, too!
                                    the focus for athletes should be on the activities, not messing around with the expensive toy ✊

                                    living sideways

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                                      zhang965 @Cuba1hr
                                      last edited by 5 May 2020, 22:23

                                      @Cuba1hr

                                      Take care!

                                      BTW
                                      Could you please explain how to sell s9 so quickly?

                                      Winners Wear Winners

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                                        Cuba1hr
                                        last edited by 6 May 2020, 04:45

                                        @zhang965
                                        Almost half the retail price😁

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                                          zhang965 @Cuba1hr
                                          last edited by 6 May 2020, 07:50

                                          @Cuba1hr said in GPS bugs on Suunto9:

                                          @zhang965
                                          Almost half the retail price😁

                                          yep, I tried bid a watch on this forum for 5 euros, but the topic has been blocked.

                                          our community had became more and more humor less.

                                          I hope you find a good way to start a new adventure.

                                          Winners Wear Winners

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