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    • zadowZ Offline
      zadow
      last edited by zadow

      Hi Fabio,
      Well, if you are looking for swim analysis tools, give a try to Runalyze. It sounds weird, I know, run-analyze for swiming, but that is just a name. 🙂 All the metrics you mentioned, are stored in fit file from your watches. And Runalyze is able to interpret them quite nicely. It is a (yet still) free tool. I am triathlete as well, and I am quite happy with it for all my tri-trainings.

      Oh, and Runalyze can sync automagicaly with SuuntoApp 🙂 I am not so sure about sync from Movescount, but you can try.

      Suunto S9 Baro Titanium, Ironman l.e.
      Suunto Smart Sensor
      Wahoo Tickr FIT
      Hammerhead Karoo 2

      Swim Ride Run Rest Repeat

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      • Fábio VeríssimoF Offline
        Fábio Veríssimo @Pasquale Gurzi'
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        @Pasquale-Gurzi
        Hi Pasquale, Regarding the “data quality” I was refering to uploading from Movescount (MC) to the Quantified-self.io (QS). The QS works reasonbly good in the outside activities, pool swim… not so well. It’s important to remind the QS is made by one developer in it’s free time! It’s amazing what he already did.

        I’ve gave up on the SuuntoApp (SA). I’ve disconected de SA from my MC acount ans I’m still using the the Movescount App in my phone. It’s the only way to upload workouts to my watch. With the Covid-19 situations all pools are closed in Portugal. So, Open Water swim workouts is the only way to train in a structure way without loosing my mind.
        I’ve never relied on the stroke count, so I can’t talk about it. Splits work ok for me in MC, but i don’t see them in the SA.

        I will follow @zadow advice and try Runalys! Thank you!

        Suunto Ambit3 Sport
        Garmin Edge 530
        Garmin FR255s

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        • Pasquale Gurzi'P Offline
          Pasquale Gurzi' @Fábio Veríssimo
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          @Fábio-Veríssimo Thanks for your answer. I love suunto watch HW is very accurate an I have the ambit3 peak. very precise barometer and gps but the lacking of swimming features is making me considering alternatives… As you said QS is good for OW, we get a bit more info, but still no data on strokes count and rate… Did you try the Runalys already? thanks

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          • isaziI Offline
            isazi Moderator @Pasquale Gurzi'
            last edited by

            @Pasquale-Gurzi you can try QS and Runalyze yourself. They’re free and easy to setup.

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            • Pasquale Gurzi'P Offline
              Pasquale Gurzi' @isazi
              last edited by

              @isazi thanks for the tip!!, I just tried both app and I don’t see the stats I need. they offer a little more but not enough and not accurate to justify the use of yet another platform…

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              • isaziI Offline
                isazi Moderator @Pasquale Gurzi'
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                @Pasquale-Gurzi alright I don’t swim, so better ask @zadow how to get the metrics you need in Runalyze.

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                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Pasquale Gurzi'
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                  @Pasquale-Gurzi More data should come per laps etc.

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                  • Pasquale Gurzi'P Offline
                    Pasquale Gurzi' @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos QS is adding some value for openwater… I can see now total-time, swimming-time and pause-time, also the charts looks nice and accurate, but I don’t see stroke rate which the watch seems to record. Would be nice to have this both in a chart and per lap. For pool swimming I only see total time and a table with the interval with just time and distance, but no charts and again no data for strokes rate/count, swimming style, swolf etc… Any update is very welcome, thanks.

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                    • zadowZ Offline
                      zadow @Fábio Veríssimo
                      last edited by zadow

                      In the Movescount website we could see the all the variables: pace/speed, time, strokes, rest time, pool lenghts / laps / intervals, even info from the python apps the we wrote and share. We could even zoom, select and analyse certain parts of the swim session.

                      @Fábio-Veríssimo Well, I am not saying that RunAlyze can display all the metrics, which MC can, but most of the metrics, you are mentioning here, could be found in RA.

                      In the swim activity details:
                      First table Laps = Intervals. I am not using manual laps, so always intervals, as detected by watch (SSWHR Baro) are displayed. However, RA names intervals as Laps.

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                      yeah, I am slow swimmer, I am definitely not in the front pack, but I am getting it back during the ride and run leg 🙂

                      In second table, you’ll find pool lanes (incremental length per lane), strokes, SWOLF, and time per lane.
                      and yes, I was swimming in pool with 50m long lanes 🙂

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                      And you can also display them in a graph (just do not forget to click on small hamburger menu on top of the first graph, to display all graphs available…

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                      Definitely,therre is no option to display any metrics or analysis from python apps. If you are looking for something even more, maybe try the new swim.com platform, which Suunto is now connected. I tried it, but I am not very happy with it as it comes a bit confusing to me. Maybe it’s becouse swimming is not my favourite part of triathlon 🙂

                      Have a nice day!

                      Suunto S9 Baro Titanium, Ironman l.e.
                      Suunto Smart Sensor
                      Wahoo Tickr FIT
                      Hammerhead Karoo 2

                      Swim Ride Run Rest Repeat

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                      • herlasH Offline
                        herlas Silver Members
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                        Hello Swimmers out there,

                        Shoot your shot, what’s the best third party site/app to analyze our swimming syncing from SA? I’ve tried swim.com and not sure that’s good enough.

                        thx

                        SRS Ti
                        A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
                        Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                        • zadowZ Offline
                          zadow @herlas
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                          Hi @herlas,
                          check my last post just above your question and give a try to runalyze.com It’s sure not the best swimming app out there, however, it can gives you a lot of metrics and insights. It’s free 🙂

                          Suunto S9 Baro Titanium, Ironman l.e.
                          Suunto Smart Sensor
                          Wahoo Tickr FIT
                          Hammerhead Karoo 2

                          Swim Ride Run Rest Repeat

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