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Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?

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    amasidlover Bronze Member @margusl
    last edited by 10 May 2020, 16:46

    @margusl said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

    • connection between app & A3P is really stable and re-connection is seamless; for lot of my rides and runs I leave my phone behind and once back home, I usually get new activity notifications in just few minutes; with MC it was kind of intermittent, sometimes things just worked for weeks and next day I had to spend hours to get my watch paired again (Android, though most releases of both Android and MC made it more and more stable); so that one and almost only thing that actually works with SA+A3P is pretty solid; as SA seems to be more aggressive with it’s BT connection, this also has a negative effect on watch battery life

    I’d heard this, but when I actually tried it on my phone it as no better than Movescount so I moved back (a few months ago now so things may have changed).

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      margusl @amasidlover
      last edited by 10 May 2020, 18:40

      @amasidlover said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

      I’d heard this, but when I actually tried it on my phone it as no better than Movescount so I moved back (a few months ago now so things may have changed).

      Phone model, Android version and Android power saving settings might have a role here. All that time I’ve been on Samsung S9, currently it’s on Android 10. I vaguely remember one or two periods where it struggled to keep connection, but if I’d try to date those, it would be just a guess, certainly more than 6 months ago.

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        Prenj
        last edited by 3 Sept 2020, 22:39

        The end is near…
        Screenshot_20200904-003212_Movescount.jpg

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          amasidlover Bronze Member
          last edited by amasidlover 9 Apr 2020, 05:26 4 Sept 2020, 05:26

          And yet the Suunto website still shows… Screenshot from 2020-09-04 06-21-38.png

          So hopefully this September’s update to Suunto app is including modifying settings for the Ambit3 (or at least transfer of settings). Which is odd because the transition pages all say that settings will be via Suuntolink…

          I would try emailing Suunto support for clarification but can’t seem to find an email address on their website anymore…

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            A Former User @Prenj
            last edited by 4 Sept 2020, 05:33

            @Prenj yep, that’s why I moved to Suunto app in the begining of this year. Wish I could be able to sync settings via the app just like with SuuntoLink, even if I had to manage them on Movescount site. At least a had an option to change settings when I don’t have access to a PC and/or USB cable.

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              Prenj @amasidlover
              last edited by 4 Sept 2020, 08:47

              @amasidlover & @andrasveres
              I think @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said that that’s not gonna happen, if I’m not mistaken. And that sucks, because it should really not be that hard to implement in Suunto app or some separate service made just for syncing settings. I have been suggesting this for quite some time, but it seems that is somehow in collision with their vision for the future of ambit3 line.

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                A Former User @Prenj
                last edited by 5 Sept 2020, 06:42

                @Prenj Yeah I know, but one can dream, thru not keeping high hopes on it. 😉

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                  lohtse
                  last edited by 30 Sept 2020, 10:29

                  So what functionality will we keep on are ambit 3’s??? will we be able to still use mini apps and sync the data collected??

                  Just seems like suunto are giving us a two finger salute!!!

                  Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                    Stefan Kersting @Mathieu Ricaud
                    last edited by 30 Sept 2020, 10:33

                    @Mathieu-Ricaud you have no choice. MC will be shut down for sync in october. Old data will be available, but you can not upload new data.

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                      Egika Platinum Member @lohtse
                      last edited by 30 Sept 2020, 18:07

                      @lohtse said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                      So what functionality will we keep on are ambit 3’s??? will we be able to still use mini apps and sync the data collected??

                      Just seems like suunto are giving us a two finger salute!!!

                      Mini app: yes - using Movescount and SuuntoLink2
                      Sync data: yes - using either App via BT or SuuntoLink2

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                        lohtse @Egika
                        last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 08:14

                        @Egika said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                        @lohtse said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                        So what functionality will we keep on are ambit 3’s??? will we be able to still use mini apps and sync the data collected??

                        Just seems like suunto are giving us a two finger salute!!!

                        Mini app: yes - using Movescount and SuuntoLink2
                        Sync data: yes - using either App via BT or SuuntoLink2

                        so I will still be able to create mini apps and sync data after the 27th OCT when they are closing down moveslink?

                        Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                          pavel.samokha @lohtse
                          last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 08:57

                          @lohtse yes, explained in video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8VwhU99AIM

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                            lohtse @pavel.samokha
                            last edited by lohtse 10 Jan 2020, 15:17 1 Oct 2020, 14:36

                            @pavel-samokha said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                            @lohtse yes, explained in video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8VwhU99AIM

                            It seems their tech support don’t know this as I rang them just to get some confirmation about what we will be able to do and what we will be loosing.

                            And the video doesn’t confirm anything. It simply says howto connect movescount to SportsTRASHER no mention of mini apps whats so ever.

                            They stated that they will be dropping support for mini apps, and there may be only limited sync support.!!!

                            Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                              lohtse
                              last edited by lohtse 10 Jan 2020, 15:15 1 Oct 2020, 14:53

                              Hate the suunto app and the sportsTRASHER web site… When I compare how much data I have to analyse Movescount is far far better with the amount of information I can see in charts etc…For instance on one trek I have 13 charts with info on movescount and 3 on SportsTRASHER And yet Suunto claim that SportsTRASHER will be a better experience. For who???

                              all these charts are missing
                              Pace
                              Cadence
                              Temperature
                              EPOC
                              Energy Consumption
                              Respiration rate
                              Vertical speed
                              Sea level pressure
                              Est. VO2
                              R-R

                              and all this general info is missing(seen above route on movescount)

                              Speed

                              max

                              Pace

                              max

                              Recovery time

                              Feeling

                              PTE

                              Cadence

                              max

                              Ascent time

                              Descent time

                              Flat time

                              Highest point

                              Lowest point

                              Temperature

                              Est. VO2

                              Easy

                              Moderate

                              Hard

                              EPOC Peak

                              Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                pavel.samokha @lohtse
                                last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 15:44

                                @lohtse the data is available in Suunto App on Android and iOS.
                                Sports-Tracker website is not intended to show you actual data, Suunto never mentioned it, but Suunto App instead.
                                if you need webplatform I’d recommend you @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos quantified-self.io is good alternative, well integrated with Suunto App (or any from the list https://www.suunto.com/partners/partners/)

                                As for mini-Apps - not clear, yes, I guess apps you have installed on Ambits will continue to work (but not sure).

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                                  lohtse @pavel.samokha
                                  last edited by lohtse 10 Jan 2020, 16:15 1 Oct 2020, 16:14

                                  @pavel-samokha

                                  If sportstrasher is not intended to show us actual data then what the heck is the point in it??? As to seeing data in the app nope I still see far less than I do on movescount!!

                                  Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                    isazi Moderator @lohtse
                                    last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 16:14

                                    @lohtse it’s another service, older than Suunto App.

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                                      lohtse @isazi
                                      last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 16:20

                                      @isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                                      @lohtse it’s another service, older than Suunto App.

                                      What has suunto become??? Jeez they have become useless and pathetic…

                                      thank you for the heads up about quantified-self.io

                                      Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                        pavel.samokha @lohtse
                                        last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 16:22

                                        @lohtse Please read everything Suunto said regarding transition at https://www.suunto.com/digitalservices. Don’t know why you asking about Sports-Tracker, but it doesn’t mentioned anywhere there.

                                        Have you installed Suunto App on you mobile phone and synced your workouts there? What data do you miss there on mobile phone?

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                                          isazi Moderator @lohtse
                                          last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 16:22

                                          @lohtse said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                                          What has suunto become??? Jeez they have become useless and pathetic…

                                          Not a nice comment on the Suunto forum. Critics are one things, this is just a very unpolite comment. Anyway.

                                          thank you for the heads up about quantified-self.io

                                          Check also, if you don’t know it yet, Runalyze. It’s an awesome analytics service.

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