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Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?

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    pavel.samokha @lohtse
    last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 16:44

    @lohtse Nope, Suunto never said that. Sport-Tracker is originally sport tracking service which was developed inside Nokia and ended up separate company. Now owned by Suunto, but it’s separate service, definitely not replacement for Movescount. Suunto App https://www.suunto.com/suunto-app/suunto-app/ is replacement for Movescount.

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      lohtse @pavel.samokha
      last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 16:47

      @pavel-samokha said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

      @lohtse Nope, Suunto never said that. Sport-Tracker is originally sport tracking service which was developed inside Nokia and ended up separate company. Now owned by Suunto, but it’s separate service, definitely not replacement for Movescount. Suunto App https://www.suunto.com/suunto-app/suunto-app/ is replacement for Movescount.

      and an extremely POOR one at that

      Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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        pavel.samokha @lohtse
        last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 17:44

        @lohtse I quite understand that you’re pissed off by Movescount is being dropped. I would feel the same if I were you. But Suunto is not abandoning your Ambit 3, you can continue using it. Yes, the way to use is different and may be less convenient for you, but hope you’ll find a way which suits your needs. I encourage you to try Suunto App, various services like quantified-self which has integration with it and then bombard Suunto with request to support features you want/miss in Suunto App, it’s far from ideal but evolving.

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          Prenj
          last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 17:46

          Here’s one, bluetooth sync for everything, not just activities!

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            Efejota Bronze Member
            last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 18:15

            Even after having a S9B for some time and found it to be, not a perfect, but somehow very good replacement for my A3P, this annoys me like hell. In particular, I still cannot see why full BT sync is not possible in SA…

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              Prenj @Efejota
              last edited by Prenj 10 Jan 2020, 18:44 1 Oct 2020, 18:44

              @Efejota said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

              Even after having a S9B for some time and found it to be, not a perfect, but somehow very good replacement for my A3P, this annoys me like hell. In particular, I still cannot see why full BT sync is not possible in SA…

              That’s simple. To push you to buy a newer suunto watch.

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                pavel.samokha @Prenj
                last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 18:55

                @Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                That’s simple. To push you to buy a newer suunto watch.

                Just out of curiousity - then why did you think Suunto added support for Ambits 1/2/3 to Suunto App and SuuntoLink?

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                  Fenr1r @pavel.samokha
                  last edited by Fenr1r 10 Jan 2020, 20:01 1 Oct 2020, 19:19

                  @pavel-samokha A cynic would say: because they were still selling A3s, intent on ending MC and realised they might well be liable to lawsuits if they withdrew an obviously massive swath of that watch’s functionality within the most recent purchasers’ guarantee period (still selling in Spain a couple of days ago + >=2 years).

                  The BT-less syncing necessary for A3s will work for A1s & A2s anyway, so why exclude them when it can be presented that you’re making a generous gesture to veteran owners? If push comes to shove regarding the other A3 losses, hopefully a judge would think that the A1/A2 treatment was evidence of extra indulgence, rather than built-in by the more crucial A3 provision. Almost zero cost to Suunto (portion of SA/ST account db maintenance vs continued user data acquisition), maybe gain.

                  It can be seen to match Suunto’s public-gesture-qualified-by-hard-nosed-commercialism that characterises the Digital Transition … Experience. See also: suspension of loyalty offer over Black Friday sale period.

                  But that’s a cynic for you. Terrible people.

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                    Prenj
                    last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 19:43

                    Nothing to add to what @Fenr1r said. 👍

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                      pavel.samokha @Fenr1r
                      last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 19:44

                      @Fenr1r BT workouts syncing to Suunto App is available for Ambit 3.

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                        Fenr1r @pavel.samokha
                        last edited by Fenr1r 10 Jan 2020, 19:51 1 Oct 2020, 19:49

                        @pavel-samokha Yup. But you asked about the other bits as well. BT workout sync alone is impressive but not the massive judicial-attention-grabbing bit to which a cynic might have referred.

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                          pavel.samokha @Fenr1r
                          last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 20:08

                          @Fenr1r I’m a bit confused, may be your logic is too complex for me. So Suunto’s plan is according to you: implement workouts BT sync but not settings BT sync to force customers buy a new watch but be sure no lawsuits? Occam’s razor tells me it’s wrong explanation.

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                            Fenr1r @pavel.samokha
                            last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 20:16

                            @pavel-samokha Occam’s razor can go back in his pocket. Assuming he had pockets. The logic doesn’t extend beyond why “Suunto added support for Ambits 1/2/3 to Suunto App and SuuntoLink?”. The cynic wasn’t suggesting anything about forcing anyone to buy a new watch. (As far as I can tell: that miserable bastard.)

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                              Prenj
                              last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 20:19

                              To give them something, so the watch remains barely “connected”, but just enough to annoy tippical user and hope he will give up and buy better watch. Completely removing Bluetooth connectivity would most definitely make most of users go to the competition right away. Keeping basic bt connectivity, kept them just a little bit longer with suunto. Hopefully until they would decide to buy new watch anyway. And hopefully, decide to stay with suunto.

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                                pavel.samokha
                                last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 20:46

                                @Fenr1r @Prenj Sorry guys, I don’t see reasoning in your words. I don’t understand how you justify that doing something “barely” makes someone to buy your new product instead of going for a competition. And that company may intentionally try to cripple product and think that the customer just buy a new one because of that. Do you really think it works like that and that’s the reason?

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                                  Prenj
                                  last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 20:51

                                  Yes. See Apple with slowing down Iphones…

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                                    lohtse @pavel.samokha
                                    last edited by lohtse 10 Jan 2020, 20:53 1 Oct 2020, 20:51

                                    @pavel-samokha sad part is thought they are selling the ambits still and yet are crippling the watches!!! Just fact…Moving to a platform with barely any functions instead of implementing them properly, wheres the logic? they ARE crippling the Ambits and it is intentional…

                                    Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                      lohtse @Prenj
                                      last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 20:54

                                      @Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                                      Yes. See Apple with slowing down Iphones…

                                      look how long it took them to admit too it… hmmmmmmm wonder if suunto are following their lead???

                                      Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                        pavel.samokha @lohtse
                                        last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 20:58

                                        @lohtse crippling for what? To kill golden ambit goose?

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                                          pavel.samokha @Prenj
                                          last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 20:59

                                          @Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

                                          Apple with slowing down Iphones…

                                          Apple slowing down iPhone models they are still selling 🤔 ?

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