SA and Strava show different training time + some rounds pace deviation

first time following happen:
time Strava and SA/S9 is different (-4 min Strava, 2h run, 4min is a lot)
Pace is also better in some rounds in Strava…

Whats up? Had anyone else this?
Is this SA failure because of wrong Strava import?

isazi

@mountainChris did you stop for a break?

@isazi no: is this strava autopause??? Should I have activated autopause in watch? I read once that Strava does cuts, if you are not manually pausing and have auto-pause not activated. But I wonder I did not ran to slow…

Maybe GPS sometimes missing…

isazi

@mountainChris yes sometimes Strava removes the time when you are not moving, but only from the total time. Segments are not affected, for example.

isazi

Example from today, short hike, Strava removed 4 minutes from my total time because I stopped to take photos.

@isazi I did not stop the whole time… So I think definitely a SA error

Brad_Olwin

@mountainChris 4 min is a long time but if Strava thinks you are not moving it will cut the time. To check you can enable your activity in Strava as a Race, that eliminates any time that is cut due to not moving. If the Race setting matches SA then it is Strava doing the change not SA import.

@Brad_Olwin thanks! Good point. It is strava. Not Suunto. Sorry Suunto!

So interesting why strava thinks i am not moving… I did a reset of watch and did not turn on autopause. I think with autopause active Strava does not cut. Also when I use once manually pause…

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

If you pause Strava respects your time.

If you don’t it will do magic. It’s in their support specs.

Tip: do a 1s fake pause and voila problem solved

cosme.costa

I hate when Strava does it’s magic…the other day I did a run and it scraped nearly seven minutes in a 1h 17 minutes run without stops… and I checked the map to try to find any issue and I couldn’t find any error on the contrary it was a really nice track on the map,…

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@cosmecosta it has speed thresholds.

cosme.costa

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in SA and Strava show different training time + some rounds pace deviation:

@cosmecosta it has speed thresholds.

Well could be but that day the thresholds weren’t working because I did nearly 15 km with nearly 370 m of positive ascent at a real pace of 5.13 min/min, I’m not a Pro but I think it is pretty decent. With Strava magic my pace would have been 4.45 min/km, If I trust strava maybe I need to start asking Suunto and Salomon for some sponsorship.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@cosmecosta good point. If you use QS what moving time do you get there? I have also kinda the same concept

cosme.costa

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in SA and Strava show different training time + some rounds pace deviation:

@cosmecosta good point. If you use QS what moving time do you get there? I have also kinda the same concept

With QS I get the same than with SA…And with my last two runs Strava an SA match in time and pace, I guess Strava also has its bad days .
The strava magic is even more hateful when you are in big mountains and with quite big climbs/uphills. There you need to mark the move as a race to have exactly the real time and pace.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@cosmecosta you know how to force it to not do it ?

Just make a very quick pause.

cosme.costa

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in SA and Strava show different training time + some rounds pace deviation:

@cosmecosta you know how to force it to not do it ?

Just make a very quick pause.

Yeah I read your previous post, the thing is that I usually do not have this problem, only from time to time…Not big deal anyway

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@cosmecosta roger dat

hermionet

ha - i did a cycle at the weekend - 6h15 in Suunto app; 1h 45 according to Strava! Now THAT is a serious discrepancy. But Suunto GPS also messed up, cutting off 15km from a 102km ride, visible on the map through skipped switchbacks etc.

Brad_Olwin

@hermionet Sounds like you were in Endurance mode, not Performance.

hermionet

@Brad_Olwin Ha! that might explain it… perhaps! i’ll double check next time…