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Closing of Movescount is delayed further to 2021

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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
    last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 10:54

    As we have communicated beginning in January 2019, we are transitioning our digital services to Suunto app. Since that time we have focused on bringing new features and a better service experience to the community, including our latest updates which added significant new enhancements to the map experience in the app.

    We have decided, in order to ensure the best possible consumer experience for all our community, that we will postpone the planned changes to Movescount App, SuuntoLink, and Moveslink2 until 2021.

    https://www.suunto.com/Content-pages/suuntos-digital-services/

    Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
    Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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      Gábor Tóth Bronze Member
      last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 11:00

      🙂 making Ambit/Traverse users happy in a gloomy Thursday…

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        Prenj
        last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 11:03

        OK, going back to good old Movescount web/app environment, uninstalling Suunto app and Suunto link. I hope in meantime Suunto reconsiders their decision to remove important features of Ambit3 while still selling them.

        Having to use cable to change just about anything in our bluetooth enabled watches is really crazy. Please give us proper/full support in Suunto app or keep Movescount for pre-S series watches.

        Thanks for the update.

        Suunto Race

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          sebchastang Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 11:04

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos That’s a good news over the short term! Thanks for the update 👍 .
          It gives more time to Suunto for thinking and developing a solution with full support of “old” products (Ambit/Traverse collection, Spartan serie).

          Suunto Vertical
          Suunto Traverse

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            Fenr1r
            last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 11:24

            “… in order to ensure the best possible consumer experience …” Wise ambition; good reason for delay.

            It’s not so much that “Screaming Frustration at SA Inability to do X” is a bad experience, it just would probably need an @sebchastang app to record its metrics on A3 for the activity to be worthwhile. And that data wouldn’t carry over to SA, even if you could get the watch to sync with the phone. Vicious circle.

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              A Former User
              last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 11:50

              Still the question remains: are they gonna do something about it or just wait for the Ambit users number to shrink down to zero.

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 11:56

                @andrasveres what do you mean?

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                  zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:01

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Closing of Movescount is delayed further to 2021:

                  As we have communicated beginning in January 2019, we are transitioning our digital services to Suunto app. Since that time we have focused on bringing new features and a better service experience to the community, including our latest updates which added significant new enhancements to the map experience in the app.

                  We have decided, in order to ensure the best possible consumer experience for all our community, that we will postpone the planned changes to Movescount App, SuuntoLink, and Moveslink2 until 2021.

                  https://www.suunto.com/Content-pages/suuntos-digital-services/

                  Dimi, what about altitude bug in route creation?

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
                    last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:01

                    @zvonejan I have no insight on this

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                      amasidlover Bronze Member
                      last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:07

                      Do you have any insight on to why they are delaying; is it because of the major (for many people) bugs with Suunto App (Bike Power and Swim Data transfer from Ambits), is it in the hope that more Ambit owners change device before then, is it to allow time to reinstate features that Suunto have previously said we (Ambit3 owners) won’t get (structured intervals, adjust settings from phone, transfer routes from Suunto app etc.) or is it some other reason?

                      To be fair, unless my Ambit3 fails and I need to chose a replacement it won’t make any difference to me; but it would be fascinating to know…

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                        A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by A Former User 15 Oct 2020, 12:07

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I meant are there any plan to make a better experience for these watches in Suunto app or this postpone is just to gain some extra time for maybe users with Ambits meantime will walk away anyway (or buy a new watch) without making trouble.
                        Just wondering, not questioning anything. 🙂

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                          Auld06
                          last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:25

                          Thanks for this news. I bought my Ambit Peak 3 a year ago, was extremely impressed and have seen the functionality on the Movescount App diminish at a tolerable rate until now. I love my watch and in general, I have been a vocal advocate of Suunto.

                          Now, if I understand correctly, I will have no desktop interface at all without paying for a subscription to an external service I don’t want. It’s a complete deal-breaker for me and if it goes ahead, I will never trust Suunto nor buy another Suunto product again.

                          I don’t want to share my runs or my climbs with any community. I don’t want a personal trainer or diet plans. I don’t want BS distractions. I just want what Movescount presently gives… a clear image of all my sports activity with the ability to drill deeper into the data if I wish. That can’t be done on a smartphone in my opinion and I don’t agree to pay for an external service that isn’t what I want at all.

                          I don’t care that Movescount desktop online can’t compete with Strava et al, I am not interested in them at all unless they become free. Please, Suunto, stop this madness.

                          In the meantime, like others, I will delete the new app and keep going on Movescount in the hope that Suunto doesn’t completely alienate its customers by this indefensible move.

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                            A Former User
                            last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:26

                            A very very good decision. Thank you all that shared our concerns to suunto.
                            Still, because we were used to the all mighty ambit series and movescount, we would like to know more about the future:
                            2021 when?
                            2021 why? because suunto is trying to make all functions that were announced with ambit 3 available through the app (not web analysis, but apps, wireless stuff, etc)?
                            2021 why?because you will make the 9 or 10 with functions that the ambit 3 had (structured workouts) and so that would be more appealing for us to make the change ?

                            Don’t hesitate to “co-create” with us users, to take decisions that are good for both 🙂
                            We are not only here to cry, if there is a company that gives what we want and is trustful we have no problem putting money on it.
                            Right now, on my side, I feel that for my usage there is no “upgrade” on the market.
                            But I may be wrong.

                            Again congratulations on the decision!

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                              isazi Moderator @Auld06
                              last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:28

                              @Auld06 said in Closing of Movescount is delayed further to 2021:

                              I don’t care that Movescount desktop online can’t compete with Strava et al, I am not interested in them at all unless they become free. Please, Suunto, stop this madness.

                              There are plenty of free, or donation based, options, often discussed in this forum. My favorites are Runalyze and Quantified Self.

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @amasidlover
                                last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:29

                                @amasidlover this is correct. Power and pairing issues due to new iOS / Apple phones are one main reason.

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                                  Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:31

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos So those of us with older iPhones sorta, kinda have Apple to “thank” for this temporary stay of execution on MC? Weird.

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
                                    last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:33

                                    @Fenr1r I dont see it this way.

                                    It was raised here many times (and mainly during covid 1st wave mess) that there were iOS issues for sync and also missing data.

                                    Logically and rightfully Suunto should not shutdown the MC (app + web) if the user cannot sync with BT on those devices.

                                    Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                    Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                                    youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                    https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                    https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                                      Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by Fenr1r 15 Oct 2020, 12:37

                                      @Bulkan said in Closing of Movescount is delayed further to 2021:

                                      @Fenr1r thanks to Apple users get MC more time, so in one year we will have the same day as yesterday. This is so good news. 😈

                                      One year. Or mid-April. Or January 1st: some more time, anyway. And, as @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos noted, Covid Wave 1 may need a specific shout-out, too. Not entirely happy at that.

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                                        Bulkan Moderator @Fenr1r
                                        last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:41

                                        @Fenr1r thanks to Apple users get MC more time, so in one year we will have the same day as yesterday. This is so good news. 😈

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                                          Fenr1r @Bulkan
                                          last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 12:47

                                          @Bulkan Sorry: somehow Tenet-ed my reply to you, there.

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