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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
    last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 15:35

    @TELE-HO I know this issue. Might sound strange but it might be an edge case that happens rarely. Not 100% sure why but it’s known and fixed afaik

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      sartoric Moderator
      last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 15:39

      Maybe something went nuts on satellite data … This morning my short run on the usual path was 100m off (less)

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        freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 17:35

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
        means it comes with the next update?

        living sideways

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          isazi Moderator @Fenr1r
          last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 19:53

          @Fenr1r said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

          @TELE-HO Turn the graph 90 degrees counter-clockwise and play “Guess the Famous Profile”?

          That nose… I guess it’s me 🙂

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            isazi Moderator @freeheeler
            last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 20:06

            @TELE-HO not related, but I had an issue with altitude too today 🙂

            The profile is not wrong, maybe a little hiccup here and there, but the ascent/descent are: I got a 12 up 37 down in the Suunto App. Runalyze recomputes ascent/descent based on the alti data and gave me a more reasonable 48 up 38 down.

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              freeheeler @isazi
              last edited by freeheeler 15 Nov 2020, 05:44

              @isazi
              nice, it corrects it?
              my recording stays wrong. the value on the watch during the activity was wrong all of a sudden, the graph in SA is wrong, the total ascent is missing 1/3 of the meters the highest point was wrong and the end altitude is wrong, too. And of course it is now wrong in SA, Stravagram (hence Elevate) and QS. At least in QS I would have the possibility to correct it. But I don’t, because then it is not in line with the other databases anymore 😉

              living sideways

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                zhang965
                last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 20:33

                gpsvs.jpg

                another sad story, the same day, same exercise, left is recorded with suunto app on my phone and right is recorded with suunto9baro.

                the distance is 3.3km vs 2.6km…

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                  freeheeler @zhang965
                  last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 21:45

                  @zhang965
                  looks like you have a nice phone!

                  living sideways

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                    surfboomerang @zhang965
                    last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 21:53

                    @zhang965 what says the gps information in the JSON file?

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                      zhang965 @surfboomerang
                      last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 23:31

                      @surfboomerang said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                      @zhang965 what says the gps information in the JSON file?

                      Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!
                      Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!
                      Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!"
                      What the JSON say?

                      Screenshot_20201125-002941.png

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
                        last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 02:08

                        @zhang965 Well, it is clear that the S/N and satellite numbers are poor, that explains the poor tracks. Not sure what you can do about that but no watch would be any better with the satellite number and S/N you have.

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                          freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
                          last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 06:13

                          @Brad_Olwin
                          but why is the phone’s track so much better? Cell location does not do it so much better, does it?

                          living sideways

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                            surfboomerang @freeheeler
                            last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 06:15

                            @TELE-HO power and location in device I think

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                              last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 08:08

                              From what I see you start with very little satelites the bare minimum and due to the location I assume it wont improve.

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                                sartoric Moderator @freeheeler
                                last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 08:50

                                @TELE-HO
                                Basically … antenna

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                                  halajos Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by halajos 25 Nov 2020, 09:33

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                  From what I see you start with very little satelites the bare minimum and due to the location I assume it wont improve.

                                  It would be nice if the GPS icon on the activity pre-start screen changed its color (yellow/green) according to the GPS signal quality to let the user decide to wait a bit longer or just start.

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                                    Jamie BG Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                    last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 11:25

                                    @TELE-HO usually your phone not only takes GPS but also uses cell tower triangulation and wifi signals to improve its location tracking. By using these multiple sources it can get an even better fix.

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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 14:11

                                      @TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                      @Brad_Olwin
                                      but why is the phone’s track so much better? Cell location does not do it so much better, does it?

                                      Yes, the cell phone can use towers and any WiFi networks for aiding in location data. The phone likely had a much better fix at start.

                                      My tracks are almost always very good. I am in a fairly rural area, run mostly on trails and I am often above tree line. My GPS conditions are ideal for the watches and I don’t see these issues. Tall buildings, dense forest and deep canyons are much more challenging.

                                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                        Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by Fenr1r 25 Nov 2020, 15:35

                                        @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                        Tall buildings, dense forest and deep canyons are much more challenging.

                                        Yes, indeed. Simultaneous tracks:
                                        Spag.jpg

                                        Google Earth measured distance: 3.71km

                                        A3P (light blue): 5.48
                                        SSU (yellow): 4.42
                                        A20 (dark blue): 3.99
                                        i5+Vr (green): 2.96 [Phone + Wireless Data ON]
                                        i7+Vr (red): 3.64(5.17*) [GPS only, Airplane mode, SIM removed]

                                        *1.53km of weird westward freakout (5 trkpts) between initial fix and common start.
                                        Both watches on top of pack. Clearly neither happy about it.

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                                          zhang965
                                          last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 18:39

                                          Screenshot_20201125-193610.png

                                          Another test, s9b vs my phone
                                          3.29km vs 3.7km

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