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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
      means it comes with the next update?

      living sideways

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      • isaziI Offline
        isazi Moderator @Fenr1r
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        @Fenr1r said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

        @TELE-HO Turn the graph 90 degrees counter-clockwise and play “Guess the Famous Profile”?

        That nose… I guess it’s me 🙂

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          isazi Moderator @freeheeler
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          @TELE-HO not related, but I had an issue with altitude too today 🙂

          The profile is not wrong, maybe a little hiccup here and there, but the ascent/descent are: I got a 12 up 37 down in the Suunto App. Runalyze recomputes ascent/descent based on the alti data and gave me a more reasonable 48 up 38 down.

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          • freeheelerF Offline
            freeheeler @isazi
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            @isazi
            nice, it corrects it?
            my recording stays wrong. the value on the watch during the activity was wrong all of a sudden, the graph in SA is wrong, the total ascent is missing 1/3 of the meters the highest point was wrong and the end altitude is wrong, too. And of course it is now wrong in SA, Stravagram (hence Elevate) and QS. At least in QS I would have the possibility to correct it. But I don’t, because then it is not in line with the other databases anymore 😉

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            • zhang965Z Offline
              zhang965
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              gpsvs.jpg

              another sad story, the same day, same exercise, left is recorded with suunto app on my phone and right is recorded with suunto9baro.

              the distance is 3.3km vs 2.6km…

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              • freeheelerF Offline
                freeheeler @zhang965
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                @zhang965
                looks like you have a nice phone!

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                  surfboomerang @zhang965
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                  @zhang965 what says the gps information in the JSON file?

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                  • zhang965Z Offline
                    zhang965 @surfboomerang
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                    @surfboomerang said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                    @zhang965 what says the gps information in the JSON file?

                    Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!
                    Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!
                    Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!"
                    What the JSON say?

                    Screenshot_20201125-002941.png

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                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
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                      @zhang965 Well, it is clear that the S/N and satellite numbers are poor, that explains the poor tracks. Not sure what you can do about that but no watch would be any better with the satellite number and S/N you have.

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                      • freeheelerF Offline
                        freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
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                        @Brad_Olwin
                        but why is the phone’s track so much better? Cell location does not do it so much better, does it?

                        living sideways

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                          surfboomerang @freeheeler
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                          @TELE-HO power and location in device I think

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                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                            From what I see you start with very little satelites the bare minimum and due to the location I assume it wont improve.

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                            • sartoricS Offline
                              sartoric Moderator @freeheeler
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                              @TELE-HO
                              Basically … antenna

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                                halajos Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                From what I see you start with very little satelites the bare minimum and due to the location I assume it wont improve.

                                It would be nice if the GPS icon on the activity pre-start screen changed its color (yellow/green) according to the GPS signal quality to let the user decide to wait a bit longer or just start.

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                                • Jamie BGJ Offline
                                  Jamie BG Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                  @TELE-HO usually your phone not only takes GPS but also uses cell tower triangulation and wifi signals to improve its location tracking. By using these multiple sources it can get an even better fix.

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                                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @freeheeler
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                                    @TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                    @Brad_Olwin
                                    but why is the phone’s track so much better? Cell location does not do it so much better, does it?

                                    Yes, the cell phone can use towers and any WiFi networks for aiding in location data. The phone likely had a much better fix at start.

                                    My tracks are almost always very good. I am in a fairly rural area, run mostly on trails and I am often above tree line. My GPS conditions are ideal for the watches and I don’t see these issues. Tall buildings, dense forest and deep canyons are much more challenging.

                                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                    • Fenr1rF Offline
                                      Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by Fenr1r

                                      @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                      Tall buildings, dense forest and deep canyons are much more challenging.

                                      Yes, indeed. Simultaneous tracks:
                                      Spag.jpg

                                      Google Earth measured distance: 3.71km

                                      A3P (light blue): 5.48
                                      SSU (yellow): 4.42
                                      A20 (dark blue): 3.99
                                      i5+Vr (green): 2.96 [Phone + Wireless Data ON]
                                      i7+Vr (red): 3.64(5.17*) [GPS only, Airplane mode, SIM removed]

                                      *1.53km of weird westward freakout (5 trkpts) between initial fix and common start.
                                      Both watches on top of pack. Clearly neither happy about it.

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                                      • zhang965Z Offline
                                        zhang965
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                                        Screenshot_20201125-193610.png

                                        Another test, s9b vs my phone
                                        3.29km vs 3.7km

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                                        • PrenjP Offline
                                          Prenj @zhang965
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                                          @zhang965 said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                          gpsvs.jpg

                                          another sad story, the same day, same exercise, left is recorded with suunto app on my phone and right is recorded with suunto9baro.

                                          the distance is 3.3km vs 2.6km…

                                          Huh, this one’s really embarrassing. Makes me wonder if smaller phone models if they improve battery life could make sport watches completely obsolete in the future… They already have better tracks in some situations, have larger (in some cases better) screen, can be easily customized, can be used for many other things and they do all this with prices comparable to watch prices. Why shouldn’t one just strap the phone to wrist and have a “sport watch” with huge screen?

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                                          • freeheelerF Offline
                                            freeheeler @Prenj
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                                            @Prenj
                                            because Suunto does not make money with phones? And because I want a sapphire glass and an ultradurable device 😂 …unless you have a caterpillar phone it is not ultradurable

                                            living sideways

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