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    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
    last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 20:13

    @Fenr1r I doubt that Suunto would lose focus on outdoor/ultra watches, it is their heritage. Whether an S7 next generation could combine those, I don’t know. Plus, Suunto has invested a lot in mapping so I see continued emphasis in outdoor oriented watches. The S7 has a number of issues that make it a poor choice for an all-around outdoor watch IMHO.

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      A Former User @Fenr1r
      last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 20:30

      @Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

      @André-Faria Exercise and fresh air are allowed. Get any impression that the S7 smartwatch hybrid(s) are more the focus for the future than the other Sx?

      I think that was not mentioned by Romain at all.
      He just explained the “user targets” for each series.
      And Jerome talked about his experience with S7, which even on outdoors, from what I understood, was very good (battery life apart).

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        sartoric Moderator
        last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 22:09

        “Aujourd’hui, tout faire, c’est mal faire”

        🙏 AMEN

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          sartoric Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by sartoric 29 Nov 2020, 22:31

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
          Sure he is … You got his endorsement 😁 😁

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sartoric
            last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 11:38

            @sartoric where ? lol

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              chrish Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
              last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 14:36

              @Brad_Olwin I don’t think the S7 will ever be a viable outdoor oriented watch, WearOS will not, in the near future, likely have the necessary battery life to pull that off. It’s a smart watch OS bent into the shape of a Suunto-ish OS.

              Alphabet could surprise us and produce a version of WearOS that doesn’t eat battery…but unlikely. Don’t think I’ve seen any smart watch manufacturer claim anything of the sort is on their ‘roadmap’ to date.

              Gonna be hard pressed to beat the S9, or need to, if they can just get the few missing features into the mobile app and onto the watch itself. My toe and ankle have healed and I’m eagerly awaiting some S9 features, a purchase, and a return to the backcountry in the spring!!! Or, if I’m lucky, marginal functionality retained and I’ll just use my A3P.

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @chrish
                last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 15:08

                @chrish As of now the S7 will go 15-20h with FusedTrack. That plus maps makes it a pretty good outdoor watch. But it does not have a storm alarm, nor the features that the S9 has for outdoor activities (no altitude profile with a route loaded, for example). But I think for many it works.

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                  A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 16:32

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                  @sartoric where ? lol

                  On the video, about qs

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                    Luís Pinto Platinum Member @chrish
                    last edited by Luís Pinto 30 Nov 2020, 19:18

                    @chrish We will see this solution greater each step. With new chipsets, (4100) “… reduce power consumption >25% and bring extended battery life to the platform.”, imagine with 5nm cpu process (qualcomm 4100 is 12nm…), and new graphene batteries.

                    I think would be great for S7 users to use also S+ add-ons. Suunto should use work already done for S5 and S9 and migrate to android OS. There are ressources very useful in S7 that wearOS brings.

                    Some people complain about the screen at the sun. Here with amoled technology there is not much to do.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Luís Pinto
                      last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 21:21

                      @Luís-Pinto I do not want everything to go Android, as an iPhone user, I find Google Assistant on the watch works perhaps 1/4 of the time. 3/4 of the time the watch can’t figure it out and states Google not available (it is) or simply does not respond. This is for setting a simple timer. Compared to Apple Watch OS it is a joke. I would rather not have all watches hobbled to Wear OS and I doubt they will be.

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                        Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by Luís Pinto 30 Nov 2020, 22:08

                        @Brad_Olwin Imagine people that want buy a AW… But, but, oh they need to have a iPhone. Google have to make much more to bring wearOS to other position.

                        I’m not a android fan, but on these days user experience is more and more app experience than OS.

                        Is more easy programming in proprietary OS or Android?

                        In initial S7 days i was not a big fan of concept. But i saw potential.

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                          chrish Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                          last edited by 1 Dec 2020, 04:27

                          @Brad_Olwin Not my use case, but point taken. I want a watch that will last for a week or two, turn it on for a couple hours of GPS navigation as needed. S7 and WearOS is not going to provide that. The OS is going to eat that in a few days. How long will an S7 run just laying on a desk…if it’s a month, then OK.

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                            chrish Bronze Member @Luís Pinto
                            last edited by chrish 12 Jan 2020, 17:35 1 Dec 2020, 04:29

                            @Luís-Pinto said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                            screen

                            Yup. Graphene is the future. As soon as my ceramic coating wears off my car, gonna smear it w/ graphene 🙂

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                              Fenr1r @chrish
                              last edited by 1 Dec 2020, 09:46

                              @chrish said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                              Yup. Graphene is the future. As soon as my ceramic coating wears off my care, gonna smear it w/ graphene 🙂

                              You could also have some on a bagel, if you’re not watching your carb.

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                                chrish Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                                last edited by chrish 12 Jan 2020, 17:39 1 Dec 2020, 17:36

                                @Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                                You could also have some on a bagel, if you’re not watching your carb.

                                I suppose it could be edible…but I think I’ll pass. Car stuff is super strange, it comes out of the bottle black, goes on and dries clear. The future is now!

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @chrish
                                  last edited by 1 Dec 2020, 23:16

                                  @chrish You can put the S7 into PowerSave mode, it will show date and time and last for probably a month without a charge. So there is a workaround but I think no smartwatch will have the battery life you desire for a very long time. I top off my S7 when I shower, I used to when I drove to work. The watch charges fully in 1.5h so charging is not that big a deal. I can easily get 4h outdoor exercise/day and all day wear with the S7, just charging above as I stated.

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                                    chrish Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by chrish 12 Jan 2020, 23:52 1 Dec 2020, 23:45

                                    @Brad_Olwin Yep, agreed, that was my point. No smartwatch will currently do that, Apple, WearOS, etc. Only smart-ish devices like the S9, Coros, A3P, and blah, Garmin are going to last that long on a charge sitting doing nothing. So the original comment I made, the S7 isn’t an truly outdoor oriented watch, stands. Yea, it’s fine for a day activity, maybe 2, then you need juice. I can run my A3P, or if it had the couple of extra features I need/want, an S9, for a whole week on a charge. That’s my definition of an outdoor watch, but maybe our definitions differ…which I think we’ve definitely established already in other threads/posts.

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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @chrish
                                      last edited by 2 Dec 2020, 03:15

                                      @chrish if I only could have one, it would be the S9. Meets my needs better than any other past or present Suunto watch.

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                                        isazi Moderator @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by 2 Dec 2020, 12:17

                                        @Brad_Olwin in fact I went back to my S9 for every day wear now. I will certainly switch back to the S7 soon, but I will miss true 24/7 heart rate monitoring and sleep tracking.

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                                          chrish Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 2 Dec 2020, 13:50

                                          @Brad_Olwin definitely. I’ve been lusting for an S9 baro since they came out. Will be my next purchase. The bearing lock feature almost sold me but with the poi rumors, I’m definitely on board in the near future.

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