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    A Former User
    last edited by A Former User 29 Nov 2020, 11:54

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Azl6mSwLw

    An interview with Suunto about the digital transition. In French.
    Very interesting.

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
      last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 13:25

      @André-Faria Romain is a great guy

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        A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 13:34

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

        @André-Faria Romain is a great guy

        Isn’t that the first exigence on suunto job interview ? 😉
        The interview was clear , explaining more why things are happening the way they are.
        Something like this would have helped by the beginning of digital transition 🙂

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          Fenr1r @Guest
          last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 14:29

          @André-Faria said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

          The interview was clear

          Malheureusement, the auto-translations (audio and transcript) aren’t. Lots of stuff about Moscow.

          If you can spare the time/effort, would you help me (precis-wise) with the following, please …

          Is there anything newly definitive on the future capabilities of Son-of-Movescount?
          Are Ambits obsolete? (I imagine not but what are they now, officially?)
          How happy is the intergenerational cohabitation supposed to be?
          What’s the app distinction between “outdoor” and “training”?
          Suunto 11 - speculation?

          If there’s nothing new or you’ve got anything better to do, don’t waste your time, though.

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            A Former User @Fenr1r
            last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 14:44

            @Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

            @André-Faria said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

            The interview was clear

            Malheureusement, the auto-translations (audio and transcript) aren’t. Lots of stuff about Moscow.

            If you can spare the time/effort, would you help me (precis-wise) with the following, please …

            Is there anything newly definitive on the future capabilities of Son-of-Movescount?
            Are Ambits obsolete? (I imagine not but what are they now, officially?)
            How happy is the intergenerational cohabitation supposed to be?
            What’s the app distinction between “outdoor” and “training”?
            Suunto 11 - speculation?

            If there’s nothing new or you’ve got anything better to do, don’t waste your time, though.

            My french is still not 100%…But I will try to help you with what I understood and my interpretation.
            Also, I think maybe your and my interpretation may vary from Romain/Suunto:

            Is there anything newly definitive on the future capabilities of Son-of-Movescount?
            No, not defined. It is stated and being a “tool” to allow the ambits to continue working.

            Are Ambits obsolete? (I imagine not but what are they now, officially?)
            According to suunto no, with the possibility of the syncing to SA, work with partners will make the ambits “active” and not absolute at all.

            How happy is the intergenerational cohabitation supposed to be?
            I think Suunto thinks that the fact that ambits are able to continue working, profit from Suunto App and their partnerships is a happy intergenerational cohabitation 😃

            Suunto 11 - speculation?
            No speculation

            Will elaborate later

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              Fenr1r @Guest
              last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 15:00

              @André-Faria Thanks for the work: your understanding is appreciated and your interpretation is enjoyed.

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                A Former User @Fenr1r
                last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 17:03

                @Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                @André-Faria Thanks for the work: your understanding is appreciated and your interpretation is enjoyed.

                Sorry, I was out for a walk.
                I think Romain did his best to explain the intentions of Suunto, in the view of someone inside Suunto, and of course making it seem desirable/ok.
                I can’t blame him or Suunto, in fact, considering how things have been shared on Suunto website, I think he did much better.
                If that is enough for Ambit 3 users or some users, maybe not. But at least we understand how they thinking, what are their aims.
                For ambit 1/2 users in their view they are supported, and have the possibility of using the newer app and partnerships (so not obsolete, which I kinda agree).
                For ambit 3 users, in their view, it is supported within the app (so not obsolete. Here I hope to get more news regarding functions that we had and that relay on Movescount app, or even planner in movescount. But let’s wait)
                Regarding proper new, that I find interesting:
                Investing in the “platform” instead of new watch every 6 months
                Focus on doing good instead of doing everything
                Possibility of “two way sync” between TP and SA in 2021: that for me, if well implemented a game changer.
                Let’s see 😃

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                  Bulkan Moderator @Guest
                  last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 17:12

                  @André-Faria said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                  Focus on doing good instead of doing everything
                  Possibility of “two way sync” between TP and SA in 2021: that for me, if well implemented a game changer.
                  Let’s see 😃

                  Did he say that? Wow, that would change my life, I use TP and WKO as my main tool to planing and analyzing. The other day when I saw in the survey CTL-ATL was a big surprise. Made it happen Suunto!

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                    Fenr1r @Guest
                    last edited by Fenr1r 29 Nov 2020, 18:24

                    @André-Faria Exercise and fresh air are allowed. Get any impression that the S7 smartwatch hybrid(s) are more the focus for the future than the other Sx?

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                      Prenj
                      last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 19:11

                      Before implementing two way syncing between Suunto app and third party services, I’d expect two way sync between watches they are selling and their own Suunto app.

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                        A Former User @Bulkan
                        last edited by A Former User 29 Nov 2020, 20:08

                        @Bulkan said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                        @André-Faria said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                        Focus on doing good instead of doing everything
                        Possibility of “two way sync” between TP and SA in 2021: that for me, if well implemented a game changer.
                        Let’s see 😃

                        Did he say that? Wow, that would change my life, I use TP and WKO as my main tool to planing and analyzing. The other day when I saw in the survey CTL-ATL was a big surprise. Made it happen Suunto!

                        Min 38:04 starts the discussion about having Suunto app also importing stuff from training peaks and the integration. That today is only available in export mode.
                        Discussion finish at min 40 something.
                        A native French speaker may confirm
                        Edit: confirmed
                        Screenshot 2020-11-29 at 22.49.25.png

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
                          last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 20:13

                          @Fenr1r I doubt that Suunto would lose focus on outdoor/ultra watches, it is their heritage. Whether an S7 next generation could combine those, I don’t know. Plus, Suunto has invested a lot in mapping so I see continued emphasis in outdoor oriented watches. The S7 has a number of issues that make it a poor choice for an all-around outdoor watch IMHO.

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                            A Former User @Fenr1r
                            last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 20:30

                            @Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                            @André-Faria Exercise and fresh air are allowed. Get any impression that the S7 smartwatch hybrid(s) are more the focus for the future than the other Sx?

                            I think that was not mentioned by Romain at all.
                            He just explained the “user targets” for each series.
                            And Jerome talked about his experience with S7, which even on outdoors, from what I understood, was very good (battery life apart).

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                              last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 22:09

                              “Aujourd’hui, tout faire, c’est mal faire”

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                                sartoric Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by sartoric 29 Nov 2020, 22:31

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                Sure he is … You got his endorsement 😁 😁

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sartoric
                                  last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 11:38

                                  @sartoric where ? lol

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                                    chrish Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 14:36

                                    @Brad_Olwin I don’t think the S7 will ever be a viable outdoor oriented watch, WearOS will not, in the near future, likely have the necessary battery life to pull that off. It’s a smart watch OS bent into the shape of a Suunto-ish OS.

                                    Alphabet could surprise us and produce a version of WearOS that doesn’t eat battery…but unlikely. Don’t think I’ve seen any smart watch manufacturer claim anything of the sort is on their ‘roadmap’ to date.

                                    Gonna be hard pressed to beat the S9, or need to, if they can just get the few missing features into the mobile app and onto the watch itself. My toe and ankle have healed and I’m eagerly awaiting some S9 features, a purchase, and a return to the backcountry in the spring!!! Or, if I’m lucky, marginal functionality retained and I’ll just use my A3P.

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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @chrish
                                      last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 15:08

                                      @chrish As of now the S7 will go 15-20h with FusedTrack. That plus maps makes it a pretty good outdoor watch. But it does not have a storm alarm, nor the features that the S9 has for outdoor activities (no altitude profile with a route loaded, for example). But I think for many it works.

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                                        A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 16:32

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

                                        @sartoric where ? lol

                                        On the video, about qs

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                                          Luís Pinto Platinum Member @chrish
                                          last edited by Luís Pinto 30 Nov 2020, 19:18

                                          @chrish We will see this solution greater each step. With new chipsets, (4100) “… reduce power consumption >25% and bring extended battery life to the platform.”, imagine with 5nm cpu process (qualcomm 4100 is 12nm…), and new graphene batteries.

                                          I think would be great for S7 users to use also S+ add-ons. Suunto should use work already done for S5 and S9 and migrate to android OS. There are ressources very useful in S7 that wearOS brings.

                                          Some people complain about the screen at the sun. Here with amoled technology there is not much to do.

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