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Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands

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    freeheeler @fazel
    last edited by 15 Jan 2021, 16:44

    @fazel
    this graph is from a hike with poles. Hence similar movement like ski touring. When I zoom in the graph is impressively less noisy. It was a dry and sunny day. I assume that raindrops and hence molten snowflakes in combo with a garment can influence the recording.
    I did not check the total ascent as this activity has more ups and downs plus a bike ride at the beginning and the end (and a pause for getting wet shirt changed). But just the fact that the graph has less noise is interesting, at least for me ๐Ÿ™‚
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    living sideways

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      fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
      last edited by 15 Jan 2021, 16:49

      @freeheeler yes - your analysis seems good.

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        isazi Moderator
        last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 16:42

        Today I experienced something similar to @freeheeler. I went running outside and it was snowing (first snow in a long while in Amsterdam!), and got 47/49 (ascent/descent) on a route where I usually get ~10 meters. Corrected elevation seems something like 12/13 (I did play a little bit with Runalyze).

        The common pattern seems to be rain/snow. First time this happen to me.

        Also, when I got home the altitude on the watch kept changing rapidly (-3 when I stopped the exercise, 0 when I arrived home, then -2 a minute later, +2 next time I checked, and so on).

        Currently the watch is taking a warm bath to calm down ๐Ÿ™‚

        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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          freeheeler @isazi
          last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 16:43

          @isazi said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

          the watch is taking a warm bath

          you have to treat nicely what you love ๐Ÿ˜€

          living sideways

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            Oktan
            last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 09:44

            Hi again,
            Sorry, but Iโ€™m still annoyed by this issue.
            Both S9B and A3P on handle bar, recorded exactly the same ride: S9B recorded 539m elevation gain and A3P recorded 641m.
            How could it be?

            20210405_084146.jpg

            Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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              A Former User @Oktan
              last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 10:28

              @oktan said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

              Hi again,
              Sorry, but Iโ€™m still annoyed by this issue.
              Both S9B and A3P on handle bar, recorded exactly the same ride: S9B recorded 539m elevation gain and A3P recorded 641m.
              How could it be?

              20210405_084146.jpg

              both calibrated at the begining of the activity?

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                Oktan @Guest
                last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 11:09

                @andrรฉ-faria Yes.

                Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Oktan
                  last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 11:50

                  @oktan link. Please so I can compare.

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                    Mff73 @Oktan
                    last edited by Mff73 4 May 2021, 11:58 5 Apr 2021, 11:56

                    @oktan
                    I would bet on wind effect on S9B and lateral holes.

                    If confirmed by Dimitrios, try protecting holes with something like this ๐Ÿ˜‚
                    SmartSelect_20210405-135737_Chrome.jpg

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
                      last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 12:02

                      @mff73 nah then the s9 would have had more. I suspect the opposite

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                        Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 12:10

                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos
                        Oh yes, I misread it.

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                          Oktan @Mff73
                          last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 12:12

                          @mff73 We have people in Jerusalem with similar hats. I will borrow one ๐Ÿ™‚

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                          Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Oktan
                            last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 12:16

                            @oktan ๐Ÿค 

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                              Oktan @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 12:17

                              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I have only to Sports Tracker. Is that OK?

                              S9B:
                              https://www.sports-tracker.com/workout/meiroktan/606aa65b61acdf1859398452

                              A3P:
                              https://www.sports-tracker.com/workout/meiroktan/606aa7310efe4a45230f69d9

                              Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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                                Oktan @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 12:32

                                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos

                                Suunto 9 Baro:
                                https://www.suunto.com/move/meiroktan/606aa65b61acdf1859398452

                                Ambit 3 Peak:
                                https://www.suunto.com/move/meiroktan/606aa7310efe4a45230f69d9

                                Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Oktan
                                  last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 13:09

                                  @oktan the reason is because ambit 3 looks more jaggy in the data.

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                                    sky-runner Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                    last edited by 8 Apr 2021, 06:34

                                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Ambit3 barometer has 1 meter resolution, Suunto 9 - 20 cm resolution if I remember correctly from looking at the FIT files - either that or Suunto 9 averages over 5 seconds which makes the altitude resolution look more fine grained. But that isnโ€™t the reason Ambit3 has more elevation gain and Suunto 9 has less. These graphs donโ€™t reflect elevation gain because if you simply add all changes on the graphs, that not what the watches report.

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sky-runner
                                      last edited by 8 Apr 2021, 07:02

                                      @sky-runner yeah but adding all the changes even on QS that does not use those filters A3 has way more

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                                        Antonino Coppolino @Oktan
                                        last edited by 4 Jan 2024, 17:40

                                        @Oktan
                                        I agree, Iโ€™ve been fighting since I bought it with support, from 2020. I joined this forum just to see if Iโ€™m the only one and if there is a solution. I have the 9 baro, I use it on a dinghy sail boat, they are always at unsuitable heights or -25m or +30. Iโ€™m thinking of selling it.

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