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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @pikeviewer
    last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 15:51

    @pikeviewer can you please write the last example in detail ?

    Thank you

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      pikeviewer
      last edited by pikeviewer 28 Dec 2020, 17:10

      After doing a soft reset, I set the sleep hours at 10:45 PM to 8:00 AM. Then last night I took the watch off around 9:30 for a half hour. Here is a picture of the morning report in my Suunto app. I’m not sure what other details you would like. The bottom line is that the watch thought I had gone to sleep while the watch was off my wrist even though it was off my wrist outside of sleep tracking hours.

      Screenshot 2020-12-28 100702.png

      And yes, my sleep is poor. that is why I’m tracking it to see if I can improve how I sleep.

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @pikeviewer
        last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 17:22

        @pikeviewer why take the watch off? Perhaps leave it on and see if the sleep works properly, then we can narrow the issue.

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          pikeviewer
          last edited by pikeviewer 28 Dec 2020, 17:29

          I take it off when I take an evening shower. I know it is waterproof but I prefer to have it off at that time. I will keep it on this evening and see how it does and report back tomorrow. Here is how my watch is set. I tend to not fall asleep until 11:00 PM or later.

          Screenshot 2020-12-28 102401.png

          I thought that the purpose of setting sleep tracking hours is that sleep will only be tracked during that time.

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator @pikeviewer
            last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 18:11

            @pikeviewer Agreed but let’s see if it is a bug or an issue with your watch.

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              A Former User @pikeviewer
              last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 19:30

              @pikeviewer I have sleeping time set 10:00 pm to 8:00 am. Sometimes, if I sleep longer time and get up later, it tracked my sleeping all this time, for example today it was to 9:33. It is out from set range, but it is true.

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                pikeviewer @Guest
                last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 21:12

                @mcindr Thanks for the feedback.

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                  Likarnik Bronze Member
                  last edited by 29 Dec 2020, 11:18

                  How about a filter, like if (HR==0) human = false;? And then don’t track sleep if !human? Is this interfering with something else?

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @pikeviewer
                    last edited by 29 Dec 2020, 11:32

                    @pikeviewer it doesn’t exactly end at those times.

                    The thing is that it tries to detect if you went for ie bathroom and then back to sleep or woke up.

                    Without being precise on what I say it looks pretty much to 30 mins after starting Todo an activity ie walking to see if you are going to sleep again.

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                      pikeviewer
                      last edited by 29 Dec 2020, 15:01

                      so, I didn’t take the watch off last evening, then went to bed the usual time. It worked the way it should, showed me asleep at 11:00, awake at 7:14.

                      So, it works properly if I don’t take it off, doesn’t work properly if I do take it off for a while before bed time. Any other variations to try?

                      I’d still like to know whether anyone else can reproduce this.

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @pikeviewer
                        last edited by 30 Dec 2020, 19:22

                        @pikeviewer I’ll test this tonight.

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                          pikeviewer
                          last edited by 30 Dec 2020, 20:36

                          Great. I tried it again last night, this time having my watch off my wrist one and a half hours before bed time for an hour, then putting it back on. In the morning my watch again showed me sleeping starting when I put the watch down. I’ll look forward to your results.

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                            Michał Rudzki
                            last edited by 31 Dec 2020, 08:30

                            Hi,

                            Also, I would like to ask about “awake time” on SSHR, because it always shows me 0:00, and woke uptime is always the same as my Alarm clock?

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                              sartoric Moderator @Michał Rudzki
                              last edited by sartoric 31 Dec 2020, 10:16

                              @Michał-Rudzki
                              If you usually wake up when the alarm ring, well, it’s working as expected. If not, maybe you’re just laying in bed and not sleeping and maybe, sometimes, it’s simply not tracking it for whatever reason 🙂

                              The awake time set to 0 means that, in those 7 hours, you’ve always slept.

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                                pikeviewer
                                last edited by pikeviewer 31 Dec 2020, 15:52

                                Well, I seem to have found a work around. Last night I set the watch down for 1/2 hour, 9:45 to 10:15,then when I picked it up I didn’t put it right on my wrist. Instead, I flipped through several screens, looking at my immediate heart rate, stress level, steps, etc. I figured that that activity might stop the watch from thinking that I had been asleep.

                                This morning the watch showed me as asleep from 10:45, the actual time that I have set for sleep tracking to start. I was reading in bed at that point but apparently was still enough for the watch to think I was sleeping.

                                I’ll try repeating this procedure tonight to see if it is consistent.

                                I still think the programming in the next update should address this somehow.

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                                  Michał Rudzki
                                  last edited by Michał Rudzki 31 Dec 2020, 16:07

                                  @sartoric the problem with that is the fact I missed the alarm clock and didn’t know that the alarm starts beeping. I woke up 1.5 hours after the fact I woke up physically.

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                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @pikeviewer
                                    last edited by 1 Jan 2021, 15:08

                                    @pikeviewer I tried this and cannot repeat your issue. However, I do not immediately fall asleep. Do you have activity tracking turned on as well?

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                                      pikeviewer
                                      last edited by 1 Jan 2021, 15:26

                                      I don’t fall asleep immediately either. Not sure what you mean by activity tracking. When I go to the activity settings, I do have steps and calorie targets and daily heart rate turned on but activity notifications off.

                                      I used my workaround again last night and it did again prevent the watch from “thinking” that I went to sleep early.

                                      So, at this point it is not a problem for me. I’m just curious whether it is a software bug, something particular to my watch or something unusual that I am doing. Maybe some other users will see this topic and try it.

                                      Thanks again for trying. You might want to try it again just to check, but otherwise, let’s look forward to a better 2021!😊

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @pikeviewer
                                        last edited by 1 Jan 2021, 15:44

                                        @pikeviewer Wanted to replicate your settings, I have activity and goals but have notifications turned on. I will turn those off and see what happens.

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                                          Tomas5 @pikeviewer
                                          last edited by Tomas5 4 May 2021, 07:46 5 Apr 2021, 07:46

                                          @pikeviewer sleep tracking is not much accurate. I have this watch for few weeks now. Today for example i stayed in bed longer as usual. My watch measured start of sleep quite well. I don’t know how to check deep sleep length but it may be correct. But at early morning i wake up few times and at morning i wake up but stayed in bed for an hour. But in watch i have all this time counted as sleep. With Time awake: 0:00. But i am not sure if any device on market can measure this correctly. This kind of feature should be called bed time tracking and not sleep tracking because even if you don’t sleep. While you don’t move, it is counted as sleep.

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