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S9B, bad new GPS version

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    nseslija Bronze Member
    last edited by 2 Jan 2021, 15:25

    Restarted the watch yesterday, no AGPS. Put the watch on the balcony for 30 min on pre-start screen. After that my ride was spot-on…

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      stromdiddily Gold Members @nseslija
      last edited by 2 Jan 2021, 16:01

      So long soak is the prescribed cure? Mine was 2020 funky this morning

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        surfboomerang
        last edited by 2 Jan 2021, 16:35

        I can confirm all of it.

        Watch has AGPS of 01-01-2021, GPS optimizations are synced according to SA, but no new version.
        Did a hike today and the start was horrible (quite a challenge if you try to follow a route) after a while it got better.

        Also received a storm alert because the barometer spiked from 1016 to 1032 back to 1016 in minutes. Don’t know if this relates to bad GPS altitude

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
          last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 1 Feb 2021, 16:48 2 Jan 2021, 16:44

          Hi all agps won’t sync. Sony has an issue.

          It’s all over the new for Garmin and suunto etc. (5k runner etc)

          Just reboot the watch to not have agps and let it soak to get signal.

          That’s my recommendation.

          Monday official communication will come. Till then enjoy your holidays and don’t worry. These things happen. They are minor in life. Enjoy your family and be healthy and happy.

          Refs for now

          https://the5krunner.com/2021/01/02/garmin-watches-global-gps-errors/?amp=1

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            Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 2 Jan 2021, 16:57

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:

            (…) Till then enjoy your holidays and don’t worry. These things happen. They are minor in life. Enjoy your family and be healthy and happy.

            This.

            GPS works without AGPS, only the time for first fix is longer but in my experience no big deal (under 1 min).

            S9PP 2.40.38

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              Oktan @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by Oktan 1 Feb 2021, 17:14 2 Jan 2021, 17:12

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:

              https://the5krunner.com/2021/01/02/garmin-watches-global-gps-errors/?amp=1

              Yes!! i’m famous now 🙂

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Oktan
                last edited by 2 Jan 2021, 17:13

                @Oktan you are always famous if you wear a SUUNTO (and join our community)

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
                  last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 1 Feb 2021, 17:17 2 Jan 2021, 17:17

                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel it can become bad if you don’t let it soak well. As it doesn’t have predictions. But if it has a clear view to the sky for a few time it should not be a problem. It should know all the data it needs for the next few hours.

                  Also your next start should be faster.

                  When new suunto models are tested (and that has been the case for s9/5) we testers never have agps. We test against the pure chip performance. We let the watch soak nearby the window or ie the balcony , for like 15mins , then we go run. It’s ok. 90% of the times. Agps gives the quick start, and a reassurance.

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                    nseslija Bronze Member @stromdiddily
                    last edited by 2 Jan 2021, 19:31

                    @stromdiddily after a restart, because there is no AGPS file provided by Sony…

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                      isazi Moderator
                      last edited by 3 Jan 2021, 11:08

                      Also Ray’s post on the issue: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/01/gps-accuracy-impacting-devices.html

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                        last edited by 3 Jan 2021, 11:09

                        Agps FYI is back.

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                          isazi Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 3 Jan 2021, 11:09

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yes, this morning I noticed I’ve got the one for the 3rd of January.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                            last edited by 3 Jan 2021, 11:11

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                              surfboomerang
                              last edited by 3 Jan 2021, 11:50

                              I received the new AGPS information, had almost instant fix and a clean track.

                              Does this mean it’s solved or whas I just lucky today?

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                                last edited by 3 Jan 2021, 12:53

                                @surfboomerang looks like solved

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                                  Mi_chael Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 4 Jan 2021, 07:47

                                  For me between 27 December to 03 January, I’ve no issue with my S9 Baro, F6 pro solar and Vertix.

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                                    apuka @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                    last edited by apuka 1 Apr 2021, 09:52 4 Jan 2021, 09:51

                                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:
                                    “looks like solved”
                                    Is really solved the week 53 issue too? Is anybody working on GPS chipset FW update in Suunto to avoid similar problems at the end of this year (also has 53 weeks)?

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @apuka
                                      last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 1 Apr 2021, 09:53 4 Jan 2021, 09:52

                                      @apuka we dont write the FW Sony does for all brands. That is with all chips, else Suunto would know how to produce a Sony chip 🙂 Its not like it’s opensource world here. Corps stuff and lotsa $$$

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                                        apuka
                                        last edited by apuka 1 Apr 2021, 09:56 4 Jan 2021, 09:55

                                        I am sorry, I meant something like “is anybody in Sony working on GPS FW update and provide it to Suunto for updating the affected watches”.

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                                          Łukasz Szmigiel
                                          last edited by 4 Jan 2021, 10:12

                                          It’s a consumer-level GPS chip, not an Apollo guidance computer. It’s tested but as we’ve seen how well it performs after last firmware update (compared to previous version) - it’s being released after a certain quality and performance threshold is being reached, not when it’s military or space grade.

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