S9B, bad new GPS version

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

Hi all agps won’t sync. Sony has an issue.

It’s all over the new for Garmin and suunto etc. (5k runner etc)

Just reboot the watch to not have agps and let it soak to get signal.

That’s my recommendation.

Monday official communication will come. Till then enjoy your holidays and don’t worry. These things happen. They are minor in life. Enjoy your family and be healthy and happy.

Refs for now

https://the5krunner.com/2021/01/02/garmin-watches-global-gps-errors/?amp=1

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:

(…) Till then enjoy your holidays and don’t worry. These things happen. They are minor in life. Enjoy your family and be healthy and happy.

This.

GPS works without AGPS, only the time for first fix is longer but in my experience no big deal (under 1 min).

[Oktan]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:

https://the5krunner.com/2021/01/02/garmin-watches-global-gps-errors/?amp=1

Yes!! i’m famous now

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Oktan you are always famous if you wear a SUUNTO (and join our community)

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel it can become bad if you don’t let it soak well. As it doesn’t have predictions. But if it has a clear view to the sky for a few time it should not be a problem. It should know all the data it needs for the next few hours.

Also your next start should be faster.

When new suunto models are tested (and that has been the case for s9/5) we testers never have agps. We test against the pure chip performance. We let the watch soak nearby the window or ie the balcony , for like 15mins , then we go run. It’s ok. 90% of the times. Agps gives the quick start, and a reassurance.

[nseslija]

@stromdiddily after a restart, because there is no AGPS file provided by Sony…

[isazi]

Also Ray’s post on the issue: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/01/gps-accuracy-impacting-devices.html

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

Agps FYI is back.

[isazi]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yes, this morning I noticed I’ve got the one for the 3rd of January.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

[surfboomerang]

I received the new AGPS information, had almost instant fix and a clean track.

Does this mean it’s solved or whas I just lucky today?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@surfboomerang looks like solved

[Mi_chael]

For me between 27 December to 03 January, I’ve no issue with my S9 Baro, F6 pro solar and Vertix.

[apuka]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:
“looks like solved”
Is really solved the week 53 issue too? Is anybody working on GPS chipset FW update in Suunto to avoid similar problems at the end of this year (also has 53 weeks)?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@apuka we dont write the FW Sony does for all brands. That is with all chips, else Suunto would know how to produce a Sony chip Its not like it’s opensource world here. Corps stuff and lotsa $$$

[apuka]

I am sorry, I meant something like “is anybody in Sony working on GPS FW update and provide it to Suunto for updating the affected watches”.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

It’s a consumer-level GPS chip, not an Apollo guidance computer. It’s tested but as we’ve seen how well it performs after last firmware update (compared to previous version) - it’s being released after a certain quality and performance threshold is being reached, not when it’s military or space grade.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@apuka I am not sure if a FW update is needed or the fault was on the AGPS. As the AGPS caused the issue.

Nevertheless rest assured that this is investigated and if there is a FW update needed it will come.

[Oktan]

If Sony decidede to release a new SW for their chip - how do watchs will get it? througth the watch update Suunto can overwrite Sony’s SW?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Oktan The FW is a piece of code that is installed on the chip lets say. Like the BIOS on your motherboard (back when BIOS was there).

This piece of code is sent to Suunto/Garmin/Polar and it’s included in the watch update. The Watch FW has the Sony FW inside it and Suunto basically just says:

• Ok update the watch operating system
• Ok update the peripherial FWS (GPS/OHR) etc from the piece of code it got from the vendors (ie Sony, Vallencel, Qualcomm etC)

Sorry for the typos