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Different ascent value in Suunto app, S9 watch and movescount

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    Mff73 @TFM1973
    last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 05:57

    @tfm1973
    it is strange indeed 🙂
    could you share this activity link to see on our sides ?

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      TFM1973 @Mff73
      last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 06:00

      @mff73
      Sure, the link is
      https://www.suunto.com/move/tonyfierros/600c4661920ad045ca18857b

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        Mff73 @TFM1973
        last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 06:08

        @tfm1973
        thanks, and hello Mexico 😉
        So, i see the same in my android SA (0 ascent), but in 5km auto splits, i also see 0 ascent.
        exact same summary in sporttstracker (checked just in case)
        Maybe some bug.
        do you try to import the fit file in another tool to compare ?

        i also see you may have used S+ Climb, haven’t you ?

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          TFM1973 @Mff73
          last edited by TFM1973 25 Jan 2021, 06:11

          @mff73
          Hi, I also have in automatic the sync with strava.
          The ascent is 606, similar to the 614

          IMG-20210124-WA0003.jpg

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            TFM1973 @Mff73
            last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 06:14

            @mff73
            This is the data sync with nike running app

            IMG-20210124-WA0004.jpg

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              Mff73 @TFM1973
              last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 06:36

              @tfm1973
              looks like something wrong with Suunto and this activity : either the sync, or the app showing wrong data, or the data wrong in the cloud, or …
              maybe wait for other users to have more ideas, but personnaly i would first try to delete this activity in SA, then uninstall the app and reinstall it again to force this activity to sync again, and see if different (if you still have the full data in your watch).

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                TFM1973 @Mff73
                last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 06:46

                @mff73
                Unfortunately I did a hard reset of the watch to try to correct this problem and erase all activities.

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                  Mff73 @TFM1973
                  last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 07:31

                  @tfm1973
                  bad news 😞 so keep it in SA 🙂
                  i downloaded your activity fit file, and like in SA, there is no ascent information, neither for the entire activity, nor for any laps (S+ climb laps i assume ? )

                  we may try to tweak this file to add this data and import it again in SA with QS (but a bit of time to work on it) and it won’t solve the root cause. Root cause we have not identified.

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                    TFM1973 @Mff73
                    last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 07:35

                    @mff73 please if you can identify the root cause please let me know
                    Maybe is a hardware failure …

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @TFM1973
                      last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 07:40

                      @tfm1973 Hi I am assuming you are using battery saving and you do not have a barometer?

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 07:40

                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Could I have a Suunto app link?

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                          TFM1973 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 07:52

                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos hi
                          I do not have a barometer and I am not using battery saver, I use performance mode.

                          This is the link
                          https://www.suunto.com/move/tonyfierros/600c4661920ad045ca18857b

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @TFM1973
                            last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 07:59

                            @tfm1973 I took a look at the raw data and debug data.

                            You have used battery saving (orange or red color on the activity prestart screen).

                            That is the reason for no ascent.

                            Some services like MC, QS, Strava etc can recalculate the ascent and so can Suunto app on the laps table (Its called autogenerated laps statistics).

                            Next time make sure if you are using a custom battery mode to set the GPS to best, or Use the performance mode.

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                              TFM1973 @TFM1973
                              last edited by TFM1973 25 Jan 2021, 07:59

                              @tfm1973
                              I also have the fit fileTrailRunning_2021-01-23T06_01_14.fit

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @TFM1973
                                last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 07:59

                                @tfm1973 See my answer above.

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                                  TFM1973 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 08:01

                                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos
                                  I do not remember to used battery mode but anyway I will do another activity and I let you know the results

                                  Thanks

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @TFM1973
                                    last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 08:04

                                    @tfm1973 also FYI.

                                    I am asking the product management if the app should generate an ascent value for you.

                                    Atm it doesn’t to be aligned with the watch. The watch also misses that although it records altitude.

                                    I am going to ask about this and try to push on a better solution

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                                      TFM1973 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by TFM1973 25 Jan 2021, 08:21

                                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I am sure that I was using the performance mode. My watch is new and I am a new suunto user, normally I never change the default settings and that was not the first time that happened
                                      I have another example, the ascent resume is zero but the resume by km shows 808

                                      https://www.suunto.com/move/tonyfierros/5fea0f6d48161d078e4f11bb

                                      Screenshot_20210125-011936.jpg Screenshot_20210125-011816.jpg

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                                        cosme.costa @TFM1973
                                        last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 08:29

                                        @tfm1973 One of the problems/advantages of the Suunto S9 regarding the power savings is that if you are in the screen before starting the exercise and you push the upper button you change the power mode. This is very useful to rotate between power modes but it also make that sometimes, accidentally, you push the button changing the power mode without noticing it. It has happened to me some times putting my gloves or my jacket on.

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @cosme.costa
                                          last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 08:31

                                          Correct,

                                          this can happen.

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