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SSWHR + belt -> heart rate wrong

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    Luís Pinto Platinum Member @suzzlo
    last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 14:39

    @suzzlo yes, and i don’t want to make publicity but take a look to the price of Decathlon belt… compared to others.

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      suzzlo Moderator @Luís Pinto
      last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 14:42

      @luís-pinto I started using with my Sony SW60 Android Wear smartwatch years ago, and still works well 🙂

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        Luís Pinto Platinum Member @suzzlo
        last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 14:46

        @suzzlo Sometimes 3rd parts have quality. And in our days came from China interesting gadgets.

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          SlaSh Platinum Member @aldnet
          last edited by SlaSh 19 Mar 2018, 16:10

          @aldnet no, broke it long time ago, I use scosche. BTW hrm-tri is only ANT+ so wont work with spartan line.

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            Luís Pinto Platinum Member @SlaSh
            last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 16:14

            @slashas Take a look for dual BLE+Ant solution in Decathlon. Not a single problem until now (1 year).

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              SlaSh Platinum Member @Luís Pinto
              last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 16:29

              @luís-pinto said in SSWHR + belt -> heart rate wrong:

              Decathlon

              I use scosche rhythm+ withous any issues as well, I do weight lifting so chest strap is not comfortable for me.

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                Luís Pinto Platinum Member @SlaSh
                last edited by Luís Pinto 19 Mar 2018, 16:43

                @slashas Yes, optic sensors in watch are more convenient.

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                  SlaSh Platinum Member @Luís Pinto
                  last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 16:45

                  @luís-pinto for weight lifting watch ohrm isnt the best solution cause of wrist move, but scosche on forearm works just flawless.

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                    Luís Pinto Platinum Member @SlaSh
                    last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 16:50

                    @slashas We can’t have everything… ☺

                    For example a use dual protocol Decathlon HR sensor with a t-shirt with technical tissue that have belt inside. Its more comfortable.
                    I think optic or some type of new technology will improve.

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
                      last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 16:57

                      @luís-pinto just to spice it up: ohr latetly also supports ibi (rr)

                      @slashas the schotche also supports ibi but it does it quite bad.

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                        Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by Luís Pinto 19 Mar 2018, 17:01

                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos ibi rr?

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
                          last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 17:06

                          @luís-pinto interbeat interval. Useful for hrv and vo2max

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                            Ze Stuart Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 19:39

                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos is this just IBI at rest, or in motion too? And, and: is there a device available to buy, or is this still testing?

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                              SlaSh Platinum Member @Luís Pinto
                              last edited by 19 Mar 2018, 20:41

                              @luís-pinto you are wrong, as I am hitting my chest quite frequently and this way I have broke hrm-tri and suunto sensors with dumbbell and weight bar. For running or biking this is ok, but not for weight lifting 😉

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                                aldnet
                                last edited by aldnet 20 Mar 2018, 08:46

                                More tests, I use compex gel today, and with 2 trainings no problems. Tomorrow I will try with running, in fact where I have more problems with HR, let’s see what happen.

                                @slashas After writing my post I realize that HRM-Tri it’s only ANT+, so, as you say, no compatibility with Suunto Spartan.

                                If tomorrow it’s not working, apart of contacting Suunto, I will have the possibility to try a Decathlon belt, let’s see what happens.

                                Interesting Scosche rhythm+, I didn’t know this brand, I will take a look.

                                @Luís-Pinto optic sensors are more convenient, or comfortable, but in some scenarios are less precise that a belt hr.

                                Because someone speak about Polar belt, I remember using it some years ago and my experience was really bad.

                                Perhaps the problem it’s me 😂 😂

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                                  Frédéric Fiandino @aldnet
                                  last edited by 20 Mar 2018, 09:07

                                  @aldnet Good news for the Compex trick

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                                    Jani Kaikkonen Bronze Member
                                    last edited by Jani Kaikkonen 24 Mar 2018, 05:08

                                    SitRap: I washed the belt and the first ride after was fine. During the second ride after the wash I had some thoughts, that there might be something, but couldn’t be sure. Then, the start of the third ride was nothing but frustrating. It took about 11 mins to get the hr reading to watch. After that, everything ok for the rest 1,5 h. I really need to contact Suunto Support for this 😕

                                    But, why I wanted to share this with you, is that I’m still very confused with this fault. How could it be, that before I start the exercise, watch is showing hr right (watch placed on a table, so I thought it’s not ohr)? I mean the screen displaying ”Start”, gps status and the hr. But when I pressed start, all I had for hr was just ”- -” 🤔
                                    It really looked like the pre-exercise hr reading was correct, but it’s not. Eventhough the watch is on a table, the reading comes from ohr and not from the Smart Sensor, and it varies so that it looks “natural”. So, two points after this:

                                    • Is there any way I could see reliably, if the watch is connected and using hr from Smart Sensor?
                                    • If the watch is showing some generic hr readings even on the table, I’m not sure, if I could trust that reading even to check if I’m dead or not.
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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Jani Kaikkonen
                                      last edited by 24 Mar 2018, 09:51

                                      @jani-kaikkonen afaik there is something worked on regarding the hr source.

                                      However, as said before , when my belt is bad, in the start the hr is correct! It just does not go up and down (variate) quickly. Then when I start the activity it goes completely off. Sometimes at start I get even 208 hr.

                                      I would ask for a replacement for that belt asap!

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                                        aldnet
                                        last edited by 25 Mar 2018, 14:17

                                        My last tests with hr belt.

                                        During the run of wednesday the hr starts correctly but in the middle of the run it starts to became non-sense, in top and bottom margins

                                        http://www.movescount.com/es/moves/move207122314

                                        Today in my run in a treadmill I try a Decathlon HR belt with strange values in short moment, I moved the belt and then the rest of the run everything works fine

                                        Today train

                                        http://www.movescount.com/es/moves/move207784383

                                        I’m starting to think that the problem Is how I were the belt 😅. I’ll will check, because if it happens with two belts of differents brands doesn’t seems a hardware problem

                                        The strange think is that if I where the belt in weight training for example hr data seems correct

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                                          aldnet
                                          last edited by 12 Apr 2018, 12:35

                                          After some tests finally without luck, I send the belt and the watch to Suunto Support team

                                          Today It send me back with a new belt.

                                          Hoping it will work now, I’ll test tomorrow

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