Number of downhill runs in alpine skiing

MdzOtt

@Umer-Javed Interestingly, if I export from Sport-Tracker using GPX, Strava reports the same (correct) number of runs as Sport Tracker. The same happens if I “Export GPX workout” from SA (which seems logical, as it seems that this is the same file). However, if I “Download FIT file” from SA and upload it to Strava, the double number of runs shows up.
I think that Suunto is passing the FIT file to Strava (and the problem is within the FIT file).
Unfortunately, I have no tool to look inside the FIT file to see what information is there.

Umer Javed

@MdzOtt said in Number of downhill runs in alpine skiing:

Unfortunately, I have no tool to look inside the FIT file to see what information is there.

If you’re interested in diving deeper, you may try the https://runalyze.com/tool/fit-viewer you could upload the .fit and see if you can find a field for runs and what the count is from the file from SA.

MdzOtt

@Umer-Javed thanks!!

mihai_omega

I revice this topic because I have the same issue between Suunto and Strava.

My Suunto App displays 18 runs, while the Strava app displays 37 runs. After analyzing the FIT file from Suunto App I discovered the issue. At the end of the file there is a statistics for the entire activity including number of laps = 37. This is the source used by Strava to count the runs. If this field is missing, than Strava calculates the number of runs by itself.

Suunto developers, please set the correct number of laps/runs into the FIT file so that Strava can read the correct value. Thank you!

==
= TYPE=0 NAME=session NUMBER=18
--- timestamp=1077629177=2024-02-23T13:26:17Z
--- start_time=1077612424=2024-02-23T08:47:04Z
--- event=8=session
--- event_type=1=stop
--- sport=13=alpine_skiing
--- sub_sport=9=downhill
--- first_lap_index=0=0
***--- num_laps=37=37***
--- min_heart_rate=45=45 bpm
--- avg_heart_rate=106=106 bpm
--- max_heart_rate=166=166 bpm
--- avg_speed=2191=7.888 km/h
--- max_speed=14540=52.344 km/h
--- total_calories=1364=1364 kcal
--- total_timer_time=16752340=16752.340 s
--- total_elapsed_time=16752332=16752.332 s
--- total_distance=3670800=36708.00 m
--- total_ascent=3684=3684 m
--- total_descent=3688=3688 m
--- max_altitude=12954=2090.8 m
--- min_altitude=9740=1448.0 m
--- training_stress_score=1903=190.3 tss
--- total_cycles=2926=2926 cycles
--- avg_temperature=17=17 deg.C
--- max_temperature=25=25 deg.C
--- avg_cadence=58=58 rpm
--- max_cadence=254=254 rpm
--- total_training_effect=23=2.3
--- time_in_hr_zone=14688130=14688.130 s,1182.209 s,645.201 s,173.892 s,61.085 s
--- pool_length_unit=0=metric
--- pool_length=2500=25.00 m
--- 0_2_recovery_time=106140=106140
--- 0_4_peak_epoc=133=13.3
==

Lawrence Kuracina

I have a similar problem using the Vertical. The Suunto App shows for Alpine Skiing that I did 13 runs (which is the same as my SkiTracks App)but on Strava it shows 26 runs. I have not looked at the FIT file. I see nothing in the Suunto App with 26 in it.

MdzOtt

@Lawrence-Kuracina It seems that the problem was resolved, at least with Race 2. Today was my first alpine skiing session with the new Race 2 and the number of runs is correct (and the same in SA and Strava). I have no idea if it is Suunto’s doing or Strava, but it works.

nseslija

@MdzOtt Thanks for the info.

Stoke80

I recorded my first Alpine Skiing session with the Race 2 watch on Saturday.

Unfortunately it does not show the number of runs, either on the watch itself, nor on the Suunto App.
On the other side, the Suunto App shows me stats like steps cadence for steps and cycling?
And it also gives me recovery time of 51 hours. Although I am pretty sure I did not do the Lauberhorn downhill race 4 times

Egika

@Stoke80 I’d like to file a bug for this.
If it happens again, that neither watch nor app shows the # of runs, can you please send logs from the settings of the app as soon as possible after the activity?
Then please let me know your app user name in private message and the date and time, when you sent the logs.
Thank you!

MdzOtt

@Egika yes its a problem. I checked today, and the watch was showing all zeros. Fortunately, it recorded the activity, so not all is lost.

MdzOtt

@Egika I’ll try capturing the logs tomorrow

Stefano M64

@MdzOtt said in Number of downhill runs in alpine skiing:

I noticed in SA that there were numerous tiny runs (a couple of metres), probably when moving through the line to the lift.

I had the same problem the last skiing season, Suunto needs to introduce an algorithm to filter out these irrelevant downhills, below a minimum distance and/or speed the section should be ignored

Tieutieu

Not exactly topic but related…
I don’t know if « uphill bug » has been corrected for ski resort native sport mode (it counts distances and elevations of lifts…what force to correct manually total distance and elevation to 0).