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Running in a tunnel caused issues in the total distance computation

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    Likarnik Bronze Member @tuxella
    last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 12:36

    @tuxella nice, tnx for info, I’ll try it too!

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      Likarnik Bronze Member @tuxella
      last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 07:04

      @tuxella hm, not for me. Tried yesterday and distance is better, but I still got two spikes in pace when I was in tunnel (just after gps was back) and a new PR on 400m - not true. I have 60 runs on this exact route (and even more if I count other runs thru that tunnel) and only after March update this spike appears.

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Likarnik
        last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 09:13

        @likarnik can you send logs via the suunto app the next time ? and then ping me with your SA account name

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          Likarnik Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by Likarnik 30 Sept 2021, 09:49

          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos this option, right after syncing activity?

          Posnetek zaslona 2021-09-30 114844.jpg

          I’ll try to reproduce in the evening, thank you.

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            tuxella Bronze Member
            last edited by 2 Nov 2021, 13:14

            It happened today again: the distance under the tunnel was counted twice: https://www.suunto.com/move/thomas430851/61812f0036da4049ddedc17f

            (I sent logs to Suunto)

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              tuxella Bronze Member
              last edited by 23 Nov 2021, 13:19

              Today was a bad day for my watch (S9P) : the tunnel was counted twice

              https://www.suunto.com/move/thomas430851/619ce16e0400d73f7c48dc8c

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                tuxella Bronze Member
                last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 13:37

                Another bad day (S9P): https://maps.suunto.com/move/thomas430851/61a61fcae8d0ae379d8af479

                Kilometres pace shown in the Suunto App make it clearer:
                IMG_3EF2B0F6B21D-1.jpeg

                I can’t run at 0’33/km or even 1’12/km 🙂

                I’ll wait for the next firmware to post here again.

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                  ddausw
                  last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 12:15

                  the same as before with my watch. the tunnel length is counted twice. in wuppertal there are many tunnels on my running routes. the evaluation is hardly useful.

                  that seems to be a software bug and could be eliminated well 🤨

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                    last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 12:50

                    Hi all, we might have a fix for this on the next release. Hold on there.

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                      Likarnik Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 31 Jan 2022, 20:37

                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Looks good after two tests with new firmware, thanks👍

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                        ddausw
                        last edited by 2 Feb 2022, 21:05

                        The update does not result in a major improvement. Some tunnel distances are calculated correctly. Other tunnel distances are not evaluated correctly. Does it depend on tunnel length and GPS accuracy? I will verify it.
                        Is it possible to downgrade to firmware 2.13.18? Everything worked fine there.

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @ddausw
                          last edited by 3 Feb 2022, 08:57

                          @ddausw please dont confuse posts. This was a bug fix for double distance.

                          Distance in tunnels can vary due to calibration and other factors

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                            Likarnik Bronze Member @Likarnik
                            last edited by Likarnik 21 Apr 2022, 09:08

                            Hm, looks like my tunnel is stubborn one 🙂 Yesterday I ran my route again and bug has returned 😮 It was always 5,9km-6km, then bug arrived and route expanded to almost 6,5km, fix was at 6,2km (not perfect, but ok) and now again at 6,44km. Tunnel is around 230m in length, so running out and back 0,5km is added. I’ll test again and send logs…

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                              tuxella Bronze Member
                              last edited by 26 Apr 2022, 11:56

                              I did another test this morning (first time since a couple of months and firmware releases), and the tunnel was counted twice again 😢

                              Firmware version: 2.20.30

                              You can find the track here: https://maps.suunto.com/move/thomas430851/6267d46cecb30d719c92f7d0

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @tuxella
                                last edited by 26 Apr 2022, 12:24

                                @tuxella Not clear on the issue here, I looked at your track. You did an out and back and went through the tunnel 2 times. correct?

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                                  tuxella Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                  last edited by tuxella 26 Apr 2022, 12:30

                                  @brad_olwin Yes, I went past the tunnel for ~250m before going back into the tunnel.

                                  I did the same thing and illustrated it here: https://forum.suunto.com/post/80538

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                                    ddausw
                                    last edited by 29 Apr 2022, 20:50

                                    After the firmware update to 2.20.30, the tunnel distances are calculated incorrectly. It looks like the old bug (double tunnel distance) has crept back in.
                                    Surprisingly, the tunnel distances are calculated correctly with the Bike setting.

                                    My suspicion is that the error is something related to FusedSpeed.

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                                      halajos Bronze Member @ddausw
                                      last edited by halajos 15 Sept 2022, 12:31

                                      This bug is definitely there in FW 2.20.30, confirmed by my unusual ‘cave run’, as I described here: https://forum.suunto.com/post/107721
                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos can my data help to fix it?

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                                        tuxella Bronze Member
                                        last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 16:22

                                        I ran into the same issue today, in a shorter tunnel.

                                        I was with a friend running with a suunto 9 peak as well, and she had the same issue.

                                        Links to our activities:
                                        https://maps.suunto.com/move/thomas430851/63302284911a6a6cd8036306
                                        https://maps.suunto.com/move/oliviacolle/63302566d56fb73077f414e4

                                        Let’s hope the next firmware fixes this.

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                                          isazi Moderator @tuxella
                                          last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 16:53

                                          @tuxella thanks I’ll report this today, hope that from your activities they can fix it.

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