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S9 & ANT+ to BLE bridges

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    A Former User
    last edited by 16 May 2021, 18:26

    Hello,

    Does anybody have experience with ANT+ to BLE bridges, like North Pole Engineering‘s „CABLE“?
    I‘d like to Bridge an Ergo Bike‘s ANT+ HR/Cadence/Speed/Watt‘s profiles to BLE.
    With CABLE and a single BLE profile, like only power Pod, it‘s working fine. But if I try to connect more than 1 POD profile translated by CABLE, S9 will flap between the POD‘s (in connecting state before starting an exercise) or just hold one stable connection to the first connected POD.

    I guess S9 is not able to differ between different BLE profiles from one signal source (one BLE device/name).
    Does anybody tried to accoblishe something like that, and how does it will be done (in a not too elaborate war)?

    THX MORM

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      Bulkan Moderator
      last edited by 17 May 2021, 08:37

      I have cable but only use it with zwift and another app when I’m in the iPad.

      I didn’t try it as you describe. I think is because in the bike you can select a power source and another for cadence/speed, that’s 2 signals.

      Let me try with the Tacx Neo and Cable to the Suunto. Since all the platforms don’t integrate Zwift in any watch I gave up and don’t use the watch with the bike, I prefer to upload the fit.file to suunto app after the workout.

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        A Former User @Bulkan
        last edited by 18 May 2021, 12:41

        @bulkan
        Hi,

        I think also that CABLE can only generate one signal. Because you can only set one BLE device name, this could be the explanation.

        If you could do a test, this would be helpful.
        CABLE support requested a screenshot of the signal assignment page, maybe they have a solution…

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          A Former User
          last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 06:56

          Hello!

          I had a case with North Pole Engineering about the connection issue to more than one bridged ANT sensor via CABLE. CABLE is just able to propergate one BLE name and channel for all pods/sensors. Thats why just one bridged pod can be used.
          They are planing to louch a product called WYÛR in september/october. It will use multiple BLE channels to bridge ANT signals.
          With this bridge, it should be possible to use multiple ANT pods Suunto watches…

          I‘m looking forward to test it…

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            Ze Stuart Gold Members @Guest
            last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 17:41

            @morm1 WYÛR is going to be exciting! Do you know if it’s going to allow custom virtual devices, eg combining two Garmin/Wahoo ANT+ speed and cadence pods into one Suunto compatible bike pod?

            https://zulusierra.co

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              A Former User @Ze Stuart
              last edited by A Former User 17 Jul 2023, 12:42

              @Ze-Stuart
              Hi,
              sorry for not responding.
              It was quite a long time of waiting for WYUR.
              At the time of your question, it was simply a roadmap information I got from an support engineer - I was awaiting that WYUR would convert all connected ANT+ sensors into multiple BLE POD signals.
              In detail, we would need a power POD and a separate bike POD signal (BLE) to get all data to the watches.

              I mainly tried to record my trainings on a old DAUM Ergobike.
              In the meantime, I found an APP called Ergo48 coded by Uwe Böhm (thank you) which is able to convert Ergobike, Kettler (e.g.) to BLE.
              I‘m feeding this signals directly to Zwift (running on Apple TV).
              After the training, I import the training via RunGap to Suunto APP.

              Because of this, I was not investing into WYUR until now.
              Zwift makes more fun, then riding against a white wall for hours (may it would be a better training for my psyche).
              So I stick at zwift and RunGap for now.

              BUT - WYUR is available since (April ?) this year!
              https://npe.fit/products/wyur#/support
              Product information says, it can be a bike pod, it can be a cadence pod, it can be a power pod.
              I would assume that the individual POD‘s will be converted into individual BLE names and channels.
              Otherwise it would not be an advantage over cable.

              But this are my personal guesses.
              This has to be tested or answered by Northpole Engineering support.

              Cheers

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