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Automatic alti/baro really needs attention

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    renton82 Platinum Member
    last edited by 29 Jun 2021, 07:53

    Why Suunto doesn’t offer the choose to lock barometer in “altimeter mode” or “barometer mode” like Garmin does?

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      isazi Moderator @renton82
      last edited by 29 Jun 2021, 12:54

      @renton82 maybe because users will forget about that, and then complain that “my watch does not record altitude, duck you Suunto” 😂

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        freeheeler
        last edited by 29 Jun 2021, 19:22

        interesting post… I received a storm alert when I came back home after a nice MTB tour while sitting in the sun on the balcony… no bad weather came in, just few clouds.
        yesterday evening I did not receive any alert and my entire neighbourhood looks aweful… cars in golfball shape without windows, cracked windshields, roof tiles broken or completely gone, completely cracked roof windows etc.
        this would confirm the slow vs fast changing pressure setup

        living sideways

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          sartoric Moderator @freeheeler
          last edited by 29 Jun 2021, 19:40

          @freeheeler Basically, if you see it coming you won’t get an alarm 😁

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            vgnjhd Bronze Member
            last edited by 29 Jun 2021, 22:11

            i guess for now we need to rely on knee pain 😳

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              Efejota Bronze Member
              last edited by 30 Jun 2021, 10:03

              Interesting post, particularly the reference to storms not coming with significant pressure changes. My experiences in last weeks with my S9B is that the storm alarm is not working really well. We had several storm episodes in the area lately (a couple of days with really big storms and rapid and big weather changes) and in none of them the alarm triggered with different scenarios (the watch standing by me on my desk, on my wrist, walking or in a car). I wondered a lot why, but the fact is that the alarm never started in any of those cases (at least, five different episodes)

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                surfboomerang @Efejota
                last edited by 30 Jun 2021, 13:50

                @efejota Just to be sure… you did turn storm alarm on in the settings?
                If so, the watch should trigger an alarm if the pressure drops with a rate of 3-4 hpa per hour.

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                  Efejota Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                  last edited by 30 Jun 2021, 14:52

                  @surfboomerang yes, I checked it to be sure.

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                    nikshot @Efejota
                    last edited by nikshot 7 Jan 2021, 06:34 1 Jul 2021, 06:33

                    @efejota Hello, and five days ago (Saturday) I had a terrible storm, with lightning, a hurricane that knocked down many large trees and caused great damage to many places across the country, in some places there were floods with destroyed crops, broken walls of houses, removed fences of yards, etc. The same day (before the storm started) my girl and I were high in the mountains (2500 m), planning to spend the night at this height in a tent! Although, my storm alarm is always on, I checked just in case because the weather forecast was for light rain! Until late afternoon we were hesitant to stay at 2500 meters for the night, relying on my Suunto 9 Baro Titanium that if something scary is asked it will inform me (as my Ambit 2 Sapphire used to do)! But my S9B does not react in any way! We stood on the roof of the mountain and watched in the distance as the black storm clouds set in, and my S9B seemed to have swallowed its tongue. I was wondering who to trust - my eyes or S9B. In the end, reason prevailed and we quickly moved out of the mountain as the storm hit us hard! When we were already traveling by car, the storm was in full swing. We crossed the whole country, as the storm was moving with us, it was scary, trees were falling on the road we were traveling on … The next day we saw the whole balance of the past storm on the news … I don’t think if I had trusted the alarm of my S9B and we were left at 2500 m in a tent, imagine what was there!

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                      Egika Platinum Member @nikshot
                      last edited by Egika 7 Jan 2021, 10:01 1 Jul 2021, 09:03

                      @nikshot @Efejota
                      comparing a storm event with the watch triggering an alarm does not help.
                      Can you please share the pressure information for the specific location and time, to see if the conditions where so, that the watch could detect it…
                      The watch is no weather station, the only information it has, is the barometric pressure.

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                        nikshot @Egika
                        last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 13:19

                        @egikaI can only show this photo which was taken on the same day at noon, when the weather was beautiful and there was no sign of what would happen a few hours later, but here I notice that the pressure has changed dramatically by 8 points (1020 hPa- 1028xPa) without the alarm responding!?! IMG_2283.jpg

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                          isazi Moderator @nikshot
                          last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 13:22

                          @nikshot well, it increased, the alarm is for a sharp decrease 🙂

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                            nikshot @isazi
                            last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 13:45

                            @isaziI’m sorry I didn’t check the pressure value a few hours later when this happened, do you think it happened without a change in pressure?
                            Before (A photo I took around noon ) :
                            IMG_2279-(2).jpg
                            After (The video is not mine) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If5WCGxtkIM

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                              isazi Moderator @nikshot
                              last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 13:47

                              @nikshot I’m just saying you showed a pic that does not mean anything. You show the pressure going up, and complain you didn’t get an alarm. It’s like saying you press up on the elevator and complain you didn’t get to the ground floor. Go on the internet, look for the pressure at weather stations close to where you were, and measure the drop.

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                                nikshot @isazi
                                last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 13:51

                                @isazi See this now a few hours later (video is not mine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If5WCGxtkIM

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                                  nikshot @isazi
                                  last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 13:55

                                  @isazi Or this::
                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqNnn5R6Rk

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                                    isazi Moderator @nikshot
                                    last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 13:59

                                    @nikshot I don’t doubt there was a storm, I can read newspapers. I’m just telling you that I have no idea why you didn’t get a storm alarm (I get them for major storms), but that if you want to know why you need to check the data of weather stations in the area and measure the drop. Not YouTube, that’s not a weather station 🙂

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                                      Egika Platinum Member @nikshot
                                      last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 14:22

                                      @nikshot like in the screenshot from desertkie20 here in this thread.
                                      There no big pressure drop was to be measured, still a storm went through. Nothing a watch could do here.

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                                        surfboomerang @nikshot
                                        last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 14:25

                                        @nikshot If altitude is calibrated by FusedAlti or manual it can also cause this jump in pressure. In this case the alarm won’t be triggered.

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                                          nikshot @surfboomerang
                                          last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 14:32

                                          @surfboomerangIt is not touched

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