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    A Former User @TheGuyFromTheSummit
    last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 05:38

    @theguyfromthesummit I have the same wobbling track, seems as if I am drunk. Posted it some weeks ago in the S9P real world data forum here. No matter what GPS settings I use.

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      TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Guest
      last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 05:39

      @_marcus_
      I thought or was hoping, that the peak has a better gps track…
      Sorry to hear that.
      So you just live with this?

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        A Former User @TheGuyFromTheSummit
        last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 05:44

        @theguyfromthesummit I use my Apex Pro or Vertix…more reliable/pausible track recordings. Sometimes I wear the S9P too when I want ETA/ETE for a predefined track which Coros does not offer up to now. Maybe this will change soon…

        BTW I live near Garmisch.

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          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Guest
          last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 06:10

          @_marcus_ Ah dann kann ich auch Deutsch schreiben 🙂 Also schon fast ganz weg von Suunto.

          Liebäugl selbst immer mit einer Garmin, aber bleib dann doch wieder bei Suunto.

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            A Former User @TheGuyFromTheSummit
            last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 06:16

            @theguyfromthesummit von Suunto weg als tägliche Uhr bin ich seit 2019, als ich dann schlussendlich doch enttäuscht war von der S9B. Es waren Hoffnungen da, die man natürlich nicht hätte haben dürfen. Bin dann zur Fenix 6x Pro damals gewechselt. Seit Sommer letzten Jahres dann zu Coros gekommen wegen der genialen Unterstützung des Stryd Footpod. An die S9P bin ich sehr günstig gekommen und hab sie zum Spielen geholt und um zu schauen, wie Suunto sich so entwickelt…aber meine Favoriten sind Apex Pro und Vertix

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              DMytro @Guest
              last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 06:20

              @_marcus_ oh cool! Nice places you have there, I’m going up the Alpspitze in a couple of weeks.

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                A Former User @DMytro
                last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 06:29

                @dmytro nice, hope you find a day with less people 😅 which way do you go up? Via Ferrata?

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                  DMytro @Guest
                  last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 06:45

                  @_marcus_ yup. Yeah, I’m going up from the valley, so I’ll start the ferrata itself relatively late when people aren’t that abundant anymore.

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                    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Guest
                    last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 06:55

                    @_marcus_ said in GPS normal?:

                    Bin dann zur Fenix 6x Pro damals gewechselt

                    Maybe I switch back to English, so nobody feels left out haha.
                    All in all I am satisfied with my S9B, but the problems are increasing…

                    Have you tested the Fenix 6x Pro and S9B regarding tracking reliability? (better GPS track, ascent etc.?)

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                      TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members
                      last edited by TheGuyFromTheSummit 17 Aug 2021, 09:59

                      So now I checked some old data and it looks like, that Suunto did something with the software… in a bad way
                      2020 everything was fine
                      2021 GPS track is wobbly and looses the signal

                      The comparison clearly shows, that something went wrong in 2021. A friend of mine also recognized a drop in performance since July.

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                        A Former User @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                        last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 10:46

                        @theguyfromthesummit no, I only did a direct comparison with the Apex Pro and S9P wearing both on my arms.

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                          DMytro @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                          last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 14:42

                          @theguyfromthesummit by the way, why don’t you try snap to route if a “good” track is of importance to you? Or you don’t use predefined routes?

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                            TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @DMytro
                            last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 14:44

                            @dmytro
                            Sometimes I change the route during the run and so snap to route won’t work.
                            Even during a race the actual paths was different to the gpx track and messed up the data using snap to route.

                            I just want the old performance back 😆

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                              DMytro @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                              last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 14:47

                              @theguyfromthesummit ok, I see. Well, If you think it’s firmware related, you might want to try flashing an old one, they are linked somewhere in the forum. Beware, flashing an older FW deletes all your watch data.

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                                TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @DMytro
                                last edited by 17 Aug 2021, 14:49

                                @dmytro thanks I will have a look.

                                But does anyone else experience such drop in accuracy?

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                                  Shrek3k @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                  last edited by Shrek3k 18 Aug 2021, 20:52

                                  @theguyfromthesummit (Un)Fortunately not at all. I have a non-baro 9, and although I see some bad sections when the area is really hard on GNSS, I usually have a good track. Just yesterday I ran 8 km on a track, and it worked quite well (area is not covered or bad for GNSS, but nevertheless…), and on a “regular” route the track is at least not ‘nervous’.
                                  I usually only use GPS, currently I activated Beidou and before that Galileo to check if there is any real improvement … which I do not notice in my areas.
                                  Screenshot20.jpg Screenshot21.jpg

                                  using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                                  OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                                    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Shrek3k
                                    last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 20:58

                                    @shrek3k hmmm your track look really nice.
                                    But I guess there is not much I can do about it …

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                                      Łukasz Szmigiel @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                      last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 09:48

                                      @theguyfromthesummit just a thought - have you tried wearing your watch differently? Ie. higher or lower or maybe tighter? This is just me doing a wild guess but maybe Suunto is using motion data along GPS for its smoothing / denoising algorithm?

                                      S9PP 2.40.44

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                                        DMytro @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                        last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 10:03

                                        @theguyfromthesummit also if you don’t care about your looking at your watch during an activity, I’ve read fastening your watch to a backpack facing screen up dramatically increases its accuracy. The reason being an improved position of watches antenna and less wobble.

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                                          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                          last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 10:04

                                          @łukasz-szmigiel I always wear the watch the same way. But it is really interesting, that the track gets much better when speeding up (<5:00 pace).
                                          So maybe they changed something connected with the speed.
                                          Today I will try the “hiking” sports mode and see if the track gets better (Idea behind: hiking is usually much slower than trail running, so Suunto flattens the track more in hiking mode, because each GPS measurement will be closer in terms of distance, so they expect more jumping than at a faster pace.)

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