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    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @PENNACNP
    last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 14:04

    @matthew-robertson I do not know why, but I would trust your fenix more.

    @all Nevertheless you can not use VO2max as a fitness-indicator. It is strongly genetically limited and you should use a Lactat-Testing as a better indicator.
    Usually VO2max is used, because it changes quickly and is easier to measure.

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      Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
      last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 14:04

      @dmytro Walking and running

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        Djordje S Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
        last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 14:06

        @theguyfromthesummit I know that it is not reliable but again it really annoying that you see a decrese every time 🙂

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          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Djordje S
          last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 14:17

          @djordje-s Ahh ok

          have you changed anything in terms of intensity/ volume?

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            DMytro @Djordje S
            last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 14:27

            @djordje-s I think it may be because of walking. If I do a few runs in a row, my VO2max grows nicely, but a couple of longer walks sink the value.

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              Djordje S Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
              last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 14:46

              @theguyfromthesummit
              I havent.Basically standard route with little change.

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                Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 14:50

                @dmytro So to try with few running and to see what is happening? 🙂

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                  DMytro @Djordje S
                  last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 14:52

                  @djordje-s I’d suggest more running, less walking.
                  My walks also work if hr is elevated enough + speed is above 6.5kmh

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                    Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                    last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 15:13

                    @dmytro and multisport? Walking+running

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                      DMytro @Djordje S
                      last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 16:32

                      @djordje-s I’m not sure if multisport activities are contributing to VO2max. You can check this by performing an activity, then looking for it in the VO2max tab in SA.
                      I just want to say that it’s my personal experience. When I go hiking my vo2 plummets as only horizontal speed is being considered by the algorithm. When I go walking - I’m not sure: maybe the algo considers my HR for the speed to be too high, or maybe HR is just not high enough to provide a reasonable dataset for extrapolation.
                      I heard from people on the forum that both walking and running results in reasonable VO2max values.

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                        Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                        last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 20:49

                        @dmytro Also one observation.My VO2max was also low before hard reset.After that the value was high and now it decresing after every exercise 🙂

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                          DMytro @Djordje S
                          last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 21:17

                          @djordje-s well, it makes sense. If algo before the hard reset considered your vo2 to be low, after you’ve reset the values, it needed time to converge to the similar value.

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                            DMytro @Djordje S
                            last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 21:17

                            @djordje-s or do you mean that v02 is now even lower?

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                              Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                              last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 21:30

                              @dmytro Its not lower as it was before hard reset but if it continue like this,it will reach old value 🙂

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                                DMytro @Djordje S
                                last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 21:37

                                @djordje-s it kinda makes sense then. The algo needs a couple of weeks to stabilise.

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                                  Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                                  last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 22:02

                                  @dmytro In that case I will continue to monitor and try with more running exercises…Thank you all for prompt support and reply. 🙂

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                                    PENNACNP Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                    last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 22:07

                                    @theguyfromthesummit thanks for the reply.

                                    I agree, nothing from a watch is going to be as valid or reliable as a controlled test in a lab. That said, I do find some encouragement from the numbers changing over time. Also, I too feel the Fenix is more accurate given my resting HR, training volume, and general health, but I can’t prove it.

                                    Overall, I mostly run by perceived effort - for better or worse…

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                                      MiniForklift Platinum Member
                                      last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 04:29

                                      Mine has been 52.9 for as long as I can remember despite obvious losses and gains in fitness. I don’t know if there’s a glitch on my S9B or it’s just never really worked from the outset

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                                        v.sacre Silver Members
                                        last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 06:09

                                        We all know that walking activities have a bad effect on VO2Max calculated by Suunto/Firstbeat.

                                        I would strongly suggest to be able to turn off VO2Max calculation before launching an activity on the watch!

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                                          DMytro @v.sacre
                                          last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 06:18

                                          @v-sacre yup, that would be very helpful. For hiking as well.

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