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    Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
    last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 15:13

    @dmytro and multisport? Walking+running

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      DMytro @Djordje S
      last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 16:32

      @djordje-s I’m not sure if multisport activities are contributing to VO2max. You can check this by performing an activity, then looking for it in the VO2max tab in SA.
      I just want to say that it’s my personal experience. When I go hiking my vo2 plummets as only horizontal speed is being considered by the algorithm. When I go walking - I’m not sure: maybe the algo considers my HR for the speed to be too high, or maybe HR is just not high enough to provide a reasonable dataset for extrapolation.
      I heard from people on the forum that both walking and running results in reasonable VO2max values.

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        Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
        last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 20:49

        @dmytro Also one observation.My VO2max was also low before hard reset.After that the value was high and now it decresing after every exercise 🙂

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          DMytro @Djordje S
          last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 21:17

          @djordje-s well, it makes sense. If algo before the hard reset considered your vo2 to be low, after you’ve reset the values, it needed time to converge to the similar value.

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            DMytro @Djordje S
            last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 21:17

            @djordje-s or do you mean that v02 is now even lower?

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              Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
              last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 21:30

              @dmytro Its not lower as it was before hard reset but if it continue like this,it will reach old value 🙂

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                DMytro @Djordje S
                last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 21:37

                @djordje-s it kinda makes sense then. The algo needs a couple of weeks to stabilise.

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                  Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                  last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 22:02

                  @dmytro In that case I will continue to monitor and try with more running exercises…Thank you all for prompt support and reply. 🙂

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                    PENNACNP Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                    last edited by 18 Aug 2021, 22:07

                    @theguyfromthesummit thanks for the reply.

                    I agree, nothing from a watch is going to be as valid or reliable as a controlled test in a lab. That said, I do find some encouragement from the numbers changing over time. Also, I too feel the Fenix is more accurate given my resting HR, training volume, and general health, but I can’t prove it.

                    Overall, I mostly run by perceived effort - for better or worse…

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                      MiniForklift Platinum Member
                      last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 04:29

                      Mine has been 52.9 for as long as I can remember despite obvious losses and gains in fitness. I don’t know if there’s a glitch on my S9B or it’s just never really worked from the outset

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                        v.sacre Silver Members
                        last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 06:09

                        We all know that walking activities have a bad effect on VO2Max calculated by Suunto/Firstbeat.

                        I would strongly suggest to be able to turn off VO2Max calculation before launching an activity on the watch!

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                          DMytro @v.sacre
                          last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 06:18

                          @v-sacre yup, that would be very helpful. For hiking as well.

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                            Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                            last edited by 19 Aug 2021, 06:50

                            @dmytro Well I doubt that Suunto will improve algo related to VO2max for S9 as probably all efforts will go for further models but to introduce few opyions like disable/enable would be nice

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                              Djordje S Bronze Member @Djordje S
                              last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 10:16

                              @djordje-s Definetly with running VO2max is increasing. That leaves a question. If VO2max is measured only with walking and running and if it is not reliable for walking, it means that 50% of this feature is useless 🙂

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                                TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Djordje S
                                last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 12:57

                                @djordje-s it definitely is.
                                Now my watch says 49 but actually my VO2max according to a lab test is 56…

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                                  DMytro @Djordje S
                                  last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 13:01

                                  @djordje-s hiking also measures V02max, but it’s even worse than walking, since vertical gain isn’t accounted for.
                                  I don’t run due to injury, while still doing quite a bit of endurance sports, and seeing my V02MAX at 28.6 is kinda frustrating.

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                                    Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                                    last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 14:26

                                    @dmytro I understand you 🙂 For me it is also frustrating to see that you are exercising and not able to see any progress. I don’t expect to be superfit but at least I exepct to see some increase 🙂

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                                      sartoric Moderator @Djordje S
                                      last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 14:44

                                      @djordje-s said in VO2max:

                                      I don’t expect to be superfit but at least I exepct to see some increase

                                      An you can’t if the Vo2Max isn’t correct ?

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                        last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 14:51

                                        @theguyfromthesummit said in VO2max:

                                        @djordje-s it definitely is.
                                        Now my watch says 49 but actually my VO2max according to a lab test is 56…

                                        Interesting, my lab tests are 56-58 and the watch is 45-49 typically with very hard workouts. Easy workouts I am 42-46

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                                          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 17:28

                                          @brad_olwin
                                          Good to hear, that I am not the only one 🙂

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