Suunto 7 Successor

olymay

@nickk I’ve seen mixed reviews for the GW4. If it is looked at as a generic smartwatch for the masses, with no real focus on fitness (which is exactly what it is) then it’s a pretty decent device. It will more than cater for an average person, who does a small amount of fitness and it mainly interested in basic wellness data.

It does seem to be built pretty well from what I can tell (although, a 20mm watch band?? are they serious???) and should hold up well. Samsung devices are normally made pretty well and the hardware is usually decent (I simply LOVE the rotating bezel!!!). However I cannot stand their software and the OneUI (formerly Touchwiz ) is horrible. And their insistence in people using their own versions of pretty much everything (Bixby!!) is annoying.

Yes, a Suunto with 5100 and WearOS 3 in Q1 or Q2 2022 could be the ultimate sporting smartwatch. Especially if priced competitively (the S7 was simply too high to start with and put MANY people off sadly).

No doubt by that point Samsung will have lunched another three watches and Fossil will be in double figures. But quantity does not mean quality (Fossil have how many watches now and STILL have charging ring problems!).

A new FitBit running WearOS could be a very interesting option for many though. Their generic fitness is really good, and their sleep tracking is the best by far. It is also a very well known brand so will sell like hot cakes.

Sporty Go
I have looked at this and almost gave it a go. The only thing stopping me was losing the data in the Suunto App (summaries etc). I use Suunto because I love how they handle and display my data.

A Former User

I have looked at this and almost gave it a go. The only thing stopping me was losing the data in the Suunto App (summaries etc). I use Suunto because I love how they handle and display my data.

You can sync to Strava and then use other services to sync from Strava to Suunto. On iPhone, RunGap can easily sync between most platforms. Now, if you mean the app on your watch…

I’ve been asking for sync from the Suunto mobile app back to the S7 since S7 came out. Kind of like Garmin’s Physio TrueUp. So, the activity summaries and other info is there in summary tiles and diary, even if S7 wasn’t used to capture a given activity. Maybe it will come eventually.

But this gets us to where we started: developers, developers, developers…

Suunto will need more brain power if it wants to continue competing, as the focus definitely shifts towards software. Neither Fitbit, nor Apple Watch are amazing elegant hardware. It’s the software that keeps people using them.

Cristian 0

I think We should put the focus on our current S7 and how it could increase its performance and get new Suunto features (autolap, intervals… etc). All the resources spend on this watch should be handy for any other version of this watch with wear os 2 or wear os 3… I dont care the battery life If it allow me to take more advantage of my watch and have just 1 day doing a few hours (4) of sport… It could be the perfect sport watch from my own perspective

isazi

@cristian-0 autumn is coming, usually Suunto releases seasonal updates.

olymay

@cristian-0 that’s a fair point and I agree.

Whatever life is left in the current S7 - be it 6 months, a year, etc - then it would be nice to see it still supported and the maximum extracted from it. And I believe Suunto will do this.

as @isazi says, Sunnto tend to release seasonal updates. Previous updates to the S7 have all added significant features. It has now been quite a while since there was a major update to the S7 (nothing over the summer I believe?) so I am hoping this means they have been working away on some big updates and features to add

Aleksander H

@isazi said in Suunto 7 Successor:

@cristian-0 autumn is coming, usually Suunto releases seasonal updates.

I just hope we’re getting one. I got a bit worried when we got no update in June .

olymay

CES 2022 has been and gone, with no announcement from Suunto regarding an S7 replacement.

The current S7 was announced at CES 2020.

Does this mean the S7 line is dead? Is it a one hit wonder?

I love my S7 but was really hoping there would be a new version of it. One with updated hardware, support for WearOS 3, but more importantly improved Suunto App with more advanced features.

I’m at a point now where I am looking for a more advanced sports watch, one that can do more than what the S7 does (structured workouts, training plans, external sensor support, more detailed resources, more detailed sleep tracing, and more).

I really do love my S7, but I wish it could do more.

So I ask this of Suunto, will there be an upgraded model coming out?

I know there are NDAs and other things limiting what can be said, but radio silence is also damaging, as we the consumer start to feel abandoned and ignored.

My eye is already wandering to other brands (The Fenix 7 and Epix 2 have huge pull right now, if the rumoured specs are true and it goes on sale before a S7 announcement then it will be hard to not go that route).

Please Suunto, or anyone in the know, just give us something…

Jamie BG

@olymay if you look at Suunto’s development cycle the earliest I would expect a S7 replacement is next year.

olymay

@jamie-bg said in Suunto 7 Successor:

@olymay if you look at Suunto’s development cycle the earliest I would expect a S7 replacement is next year.

I really hope not.

A three year cycle works for typical sports watches, but WearOS hardware and software move on significantly faster.
It is essentially a mini smartwatch on your wrist, and if a manufacturer only released a new phone every three years they would be left behind and forgotten about.

The S7 was already using old tech when it launched two years ago (the SD3100 chip was replaced just a few months later) and it desperately needs a refresh, if for no other reason to get WearOS 3 and to stay relevant in a constantly moving market.

deltof

Nolio a prévu l’export d’entraînement vers suunto en 2022…

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Harboe

@deltof English please

suzzlo

@deltof said in Suunto 7 Successor:

Nolio a prévu l’export d’entraînement vers suunto en 2022…

@Harboe “Nolio has planned the export of training to suunto in 2022…”

olymay

@deltof certainly looks interesting. I’ve never heard of Nolio, but the more integrations with training partners the better.

However, I don’t see how this is related to a replacement / upgrade of the Suunto 7???

suzzlo

@olymay Yes, no relation to S7 life cycle… or perhaps means that Suunto has been busy preparing some awesome features, and had no time for S7 successor.

Althought I think S7 is a great watch, I think WearOS is a very complex market, and IMO, they should wait for some “platform stabilization”. If the rumors are right we could see a Pixel Watch this year, and this could be a gamechanger… So I understand that Suunto wants to wait a bit more, just to not deliver a watch that could be outdated of unsupported in few months

BR

DMytro

@suzzlo thb I doubt that a pixel watch would be a game changer. In the same way that first few pixel phones weren’t game changers in smartphone market. Well, to be even more honest, basically no pixel product was a game changer. Some cool features - sure, but they were not really popular among not tech inclined people .

suzzlo

@dmytro it will depend in the chipset… if they develop a very good chipset that makes a huge step from the actual ones… think about a WearOS chip that can last 3/4 days…

DMytro

@suzzlo True. We shall see about that:)

olymay

@suzzlo @DMytro

Maybe, but I would have thought that Suunto would have a separate team for the S7 and any other potential WearOS developments. It’s been quiet regarding updates for almost a year now, so the current S7 is clearly dead (from a development point of view, it obviously still works fantastically, it just won’t get anything new).

With a pixel watch likely launching this year, it will be the first proper smartwatch with Fitbit baked in. If they can price it properly (and Pixel 6 pricing indicates Google have realised that undercutting the opposition works well) then it could sell really well to the average user. Add in the usual Fossil quality issues, the fact the GW4 is hamstrung without a Galaxy phone, and the WearOS market is currently wide open for a reliable, solid battery life, good quality, well priced watch.

This could be the new S7. With the Suunto health tracking on board it blows all other WearOS devices clear out of the water, nothing else comes close on accuracy, features, battery, etc.
If they can add in the extras that customers want (SPO2, external sensors, training plans, detailed sleep tracking, etc) AND price it competitively (the S7 was FAR too expensive for the average consumer to even consider) then they could have a runaway success and become a big player in the WearOS and smartwatch market.

BUT, if they wait until after the Pixel Watch, much of that market share will have gone. It will be too late and the next gen S7 would be dead on arrival.

At the very least we need some sort of announcement. Leaks, teasers, drips of info help to build interest and anticipation. Google did an amazing job leaking the info about the Pixel 6 and it was the most talked about phone of 2021 (yes, more so than the iPhone). All leaks were intentional by Google, all companies do it to build interest (ok, not all, Garmin don’t do it, but their customers seem to build enough hype on their own).

So please Suunto, give us something…

suzzlo

@olymay said in Suunto 7 Successor:

I would have thought that Suunto would have a separate team for the S7 and any other potential WearOS developments

based on LinkedIn information these are the employee number in each company:

Suunto: 309
Garmin: 7309
Polar: 716
Coros: 51

Not sure if you can have dedicated teams for each device

BR

olymay

@suzzlo I’m sure someone in the know on this forum mentioned that there is a dedicated team working on the WearOS line. That doesn’t mean the team is very big (or if it even still exists).

I really want to stay with Suunto, I love the products and the app (I spent some time in the Garmin app this evening and it looks very childish in comparison).
But I want something more advanced, and if there isn’t a replacement S7 then I will shop around (pains me to say it, but Garmin Fenix 7 / Epix 2 are current favourites).
It essentially comes down to what is announced over the next few weeks as I want to take my training to the next level in 2022.