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Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a

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  • P Online
    Prenj
    last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 13:44

    Happened to me again today. 😞

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      freeheeler @Prenj
      last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 13:50

      @Prenj
      confirmed… sunday is the new friday then…

      living sideways

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        Tieutieu Platinum Member
        last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 15:48

        N/A value too on my S9B today. Too bad, it was a race, and gps recording was very bad and interrupted…No problem on my wife’s S9P wife and on a friend’s A3P…
        Nevertheless total distance and pace where strangely accurate…
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          freeheeler @Tieutieu
          last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 16:07

          @Tieutieu
          AGPS helps to lock satellites faster.
          it’s now too late… but if you have waited until the arrow is steady and not searching anymore, it should not have a negative effect on your track recording and values.

          I’m sorry your race hasn’t been recorded properly…
          anyhow, Suunto knows and it looked like it was solved. let’s observe more and please report here if you notice again AGPS: N/A

          living sideways

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            Tieutieu Platinum Member @freeheeler
            last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 16:11

            @freeheeler : I had prepared my watch few minutes before the race, and had no reason to check (It usually takes less than 20sec to get GPS signal). Discovered the signal was off when the race started 🤣
            Not a big deal anyway.

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              Shrek3k @Tieutieu
              last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 16:19

              @Tieutieu said in Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a:

              @freeheeler : I had prepared my watch few minutes before the race, and had no reason to check (It usually takes less than 20sec to get GPS signal). Discovered the signal was off when the race started 🤣
              Not a big deal anyway.

              … and the “mysteriously” accurate speed etc should be the (in)famous “fused speed” feature, that uses more or less all available sensors in the watch to estimate (quite nicely for me, too) speed and distance … even without GPS reception and thereby without nice track on the map.

              using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
              OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                Tieutieu Platinum Member @Shrek3k
                last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 16:22

                @Shrek3k said in Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a:

                … and the “mysteriously” accurate speed etc should be the (in)famous “fused speed” feature

                Exactly what I tought ; had the issue during another race last September, and same “accuracy”.
                Works pretty well so !

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                  Mouse Cruiser Bronze Member
                  last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 17:32

                  It happens again. So it’s not solved yet.

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                    freeheeler @Mouse Cruiser
                    last edited by freeheeler 13 Nov 2022, 18:10

                    @Miš-Kan
                    obviously and unfortunately not… but Suunto is aware and if you wait for the satellites to be locked properly it is a minor issue IMO

                    living sideways

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                      Bradleyd Bronze Member @freeheeler
                      last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 18:23

                      @Freeheeler, out of curiosity and true seriousness, how does a person properly “wait for GPS lock” before starting a real race? Should I start running when the race begins and press “start” on the watch when the GPS has a lock? Another alternative for a time only race ( not place ) is to stand to the side, letting others pass, until the watch is ready, then start the race and the watch at the same time.

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                        freeheeler @Bradleyd
                        last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 18:28

                        @Bradleyd
                        I did “races” when I did not have a gnss watch… but to me it is obvious: you warm up and you can already put your watch in start screen. this can be around 30mins or more before the start.
                        I know somebody who tracks warmup and cooldown at race days, too

                        living sideways

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                          isazi Moderator @Bradleyd
                          last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 21:13

                          @Bradleyd the easiest way is to go to the start screen well in advance. I usually open the screen already in the waiting area.

                          This doesn’t mean Suunto shouldn’t solve this issue with AGPS on weekends, it’s weird and bad, but it’s a good idea anyway to go on the activity start screen in advance.

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                            Bradleyd Bronze Member @isazi
                            last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 01:33

                            @isazi and @freeheeler, this makes logical sense: get HR and GPS locked and confirmed well before going to the starting line.

                            On a side note, “fused-speed” is an unbelievably cool feature and great backup for flakey GPS.

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                              Tieutieu Platinum Member
                              last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 06:05

                              AGPS is back this morning on my S9B

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                                jussim Bronze Member
                                last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 07:30

                                Ah, good to know the reason. I was wondering why it was taking unusually long to get GPS locked in recent weeks. Here’s hoping for a permanent fix soon.

                                9PP since 09-2025.

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                                  Milan Šádek @isazi
                                  last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 07:39

                                  @isazi Is it only S9 related problem? I received a GPS twice within 20-30 sec last Saturday with my S5. And yesterday, it was superfast - something like 15 sec only. Normally, I have to wait even 1+ min.

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                                    Mitch9
                                    last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 06:15

                                    Now again: AGPS N/A

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                                    HRS: Polar H10

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                                      MiniForklift Platinum Member
                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 07:21

                                      Mine is all good right now 👍

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                                        freeheeler @MiniForklift
                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 07:22

                                        @MiniForklift
                                        what time and date is your AGPS?
                                        because mine is N/A…
                                        but Suunto knows ✊

                                        living sideways

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                                          cosme.costa
                                          last edited by cosme.costa 21 Nov 2022, 07:59

                                          I think Suunto should start to check this issue seriously, if they aren’t. Seems that is only S9/S9B related, if I’m not mistaken S5 uses the same Sony chip so issue should come from another place.

                                          AGPS file is valid for some days 2/3/4 days but issue here is that with a sync we loose a valid AGPS file because SA pushes an empty/corrupt file.

                                          These small things downgrades a lot the experience with the watch, I can accept that from time to time we have this issue with the AGPS but the last months we’ve have it several times, and at least 3 weekends on a row now.

                                          BTW, I know that I can go to the sport screen some time before, I do it but this is not the way. I not always have the time. I mean, right now I’m in the middle of the cros season, I run and my kids too, so most of the times I’m in a hurry, therefore I need that the GPS locking works, not spend my little time before the start with this. In my experience, when we don’t have AGPS file, even if we wait for the lock, if we don’t wait enough time the track will be quite bad, I guess is because the lock is done with the minimum satellites and the watch struggles a lot to keep this or acquire more satellites.

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