[iOS] 1.0.1 (6183) Movescount - Suunto Routes restriction

fleshymutant · 29 May 2018, 13:48

In the beginning of the beta they asked testers to remove the MC app when testing the Suunto app. We were told to sync with the cable if we wanted items to go to Movescount. Can you confirm that the cable sync still works @SlaSh ?

SlaSh · 29 May 2018, 13:50

@fleshymutant do not have cable with me at the moment will check later and report. If cable works I dont mind to delete app, but with app it was more comfortable to sync as I am using cable only for charge.

Brad_Olwin · 29 May 2018, 14:09

@jouko-from-suunto This would be a deal breaker for me, late to the story here in the USA. I have a lot of data in MC, many routes, planned moves, training plans and all of my tags. While I think the functionality of the new app is great, I am not willing to sacrifice what I get in MC from the app.

On a less personal note, all other fitness/watch manufacturers have apps that sync with a web version. Dissociating the two and not allowing them to sync would, in my opinion, likely cause Suunto to lose customers.

SlaSh · 29 May 2018, 14:11

@brad_olwin web version is a must, but not sports-tracker version which is awful

Luís Pinto · 29 May 2018, 14:34

@brad_olwin Without any doubt. I think 100% equal. Movescount web is a reference. I think dissociating two realities is a mistake.

Luís Pinto · 29 May 2018, 14:37

@slash Yes, Sports-tracker is to run away and fast!
I do not even know what it’s kept for. Just to make confusion.

johan6504 · 29 May 2018, 14:50

I can still synk with cable after SA synk. Removed all routes from the SA…
I think it’s time for Suunto to be clear what the plan really is.

SlaSh · 29 May 2018, 15:27

Houston we have a problem via cable activities do not sync, so if workout is synced with suunto app there is no suunto way to sync them to the MC only 3rd party applications… this is really bad…

aldnet · 29 May 2018, 15:34

@johan6504 mmm… strange, in my case is not exactly the same.

All I have tested is with SSSWHRBaro

If I deleted the route I had previously in the watch via Suunto App (last build) and create some activities I have some scenarios:

App in Windows doesn’t sync nothing.
If I open MC Mobile app first, activity is synced, and after that SA synced too.
If I open SA Mobile app first, activity is synced, but MC Mobile doesn’t sync the activity.

So, apart with the problem with Windows App, as @SlaSh said before seems something has changed regarding with marking activities as already sync.

So to be able to use both Suunto App and Movescount you have to reset the watch ~~phone~~

@SlaSh I think you are in my scenario, if you deleted the route via Suunto App.

But the same scenarios resetting the watch ~~phone~~, and doesn’t do nothing with routes section, everything works fine. Sync via Windows App, Sync first via MC app, after SA or Sync first via SA and then MC app

Perhaps there are some bugs here, for some different behaviors we could see, my recommendation, if you update Suunto app, doesn’t use nothing related with routes in Suunto App till the scenario is clear

Edited: In fact I was thinking now and I there’s somebody using Suunto 3 with the beta app, he could use last version without problem

Edited 2: Fixed, resetting the watch, not the phone

aldnet · 29 May 2018, 15:35

@slash see my comment for long explanation, short one: reset the watch

johan6504 · 29 May 2018, 15:43

Even after we get this to work as a short tirm solution, I strongly believe it is time for Suunto to be outspoken about what the intention is here. Where is Suunto App going? What is the long tirm status of Movescount, and if MC is on its way out, what comes instead. Only app is just not going to cover all the expectations, no matter what Suunto marketing thinks…

Luís Pinto · 29 May 2018, 15:50

@johan6504 Pertinent thoughts.

And i remember once again, owners of Ambit’s don’t have access to Suunto app. And even they had already, Movescount app can’ t be switch off because implementation features for Ambit customers doesn’t exist yet in SA. Sport tracker can switch off, most people don’t care about platform.

SlaSh · 29 May 2018, 15:58

@aldnet yes sync is broken with suuntolink and mc, so you suggest me to reset my phone you are kidding me? Maybe you mean reset watch not the phone? and how to recover settings and etc after reset of the watch?

aldnet · 29 May 2018, 16:02

@slash sorry I was speaking about the watch yes. I will fix in the comment

Everything will be sync in the first sync with Movescount, except weekly objective, a known bug, and HR zones if you have customized. I’m sure of that after resetting the watch 3 times this afternoon

SlaSh · 29 May 2018, 16:04

@aldnet bad news

aldnet · 29 May 2018, 16:05

@slash yes but at least you will sync via 3 options without problems.

You will loose the diary in the watch, but in MC website everything will be there.

SlaSh · 29 May 2018, 16:11

There should be RED FLAG for beta testers who are having suunto app routes, delete them prior first sync with latest app. As we now have quite frustrating bug

Brad_Olwin · 29 May 2018, 17:17

@slash said in [iOS] 1.0.1 (6183) Movescount - Suunto Routes restriction:

Houston we have a problem via cable activities do not sync, so if workout is synced with suunto app there is no suunto way to sync them to the MC only 3rd party applications… this is really bad…

Yes, I have confirmed this as well, a short test move synced with the app no longer syncs with EITHER cable or mobile MC to MC.

Brad_Olwin · 29 May 2018, 17:23

Even more annoying at least to me…the elevation bug in routes via the SA is still not fixed!!! There is no elevation data when routes are transferred to the Spartan. 0_1527614553688_nUQ8ryKJT+uh4yETfLioIQ.jpg

fleshymutant · 29 May 2018, 17:25

Cable sync works as long as it is done BEFORE a sync is done with the Suunto App. @Brad_Olwin I’ll try it in reverse to confirm what you have found.