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[iOS] 1.0.1 (6183) Movescount - Suunto Routes restriction

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    Brad_Olwin Moderator @fleshymutant
    last edited by 29 May 2018, 17:26

    @fleshymutant Please let me know, I did SA sync first and now cable sync states all up to date and no sync of short walking move.

    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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      fleshymutant Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
      last edited by 29 May 2018, 17:34

      @brad_olwin I couldn’t reproduce it with a Hiking move. I sync’d with SA and then used cable and in both cases the activity was captured.

      Suunto 9 Baro Titanium
      iOS 13.1

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @fleshymutant
        last edited by Brad_Olwin 29 May 2018, 17:44

        @fleshymutant @aldnet I can confirm.

        1. 1.01 (6183) installed, sync route with app. The elevation profile bug is not fixed.
        2. Sync move.
        3. Move is no longer synced to MC either via MC app or cable (no routes synced either)
        4. Reset the watch (doing that now and will update). Resetting the watch worked but…

        I am likely to delete SA. I tried a short test move and had force quit the app in iOS. The BT connection picked up the watch and still synced to SA before I could get the cable attached. No sync to MC.

        Resetting the watch restored the route I had picked from MC.

        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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          aldnet @Brad_Olwin
          last edited by 29 May 2018, 17:57

          @brad_olwin point 3 will work if you sync first via MC mobile app before Suunto App sync, but the best scenario is reset and forget Routes feature till they fix it.

          Suunto 9 Baro Black (2.11.38)
          Suunto App IOS 1.50.0 (8284)
          iPhone 11 Pro (iOS 14 Beta 4)

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            aldnet
            last edited by 29 May 2018, 18:01

            And I don’t know why is so complicated, but yes, elevation bug is still present, in the notes of the version is indicated.

            Suunto 9 Baro Black (2.11.38)
            Suunto App IOS 1.50.0 (8284)
            iPhone 11 Pro (iOS 14 Beta 4)

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              Brad_Olwin Moderator @aldnet
              last edited by 29 May 2018, 18:01

              @aldnet as you can see from my final note below, even when I force quit the app it synced before I could get the cable attached and synced. I cannot afford to lose my sync with MC and until there are more tests done I am unwilling to use SA.

              Frankly, this is what I was concerned about a couple weeks ago when the route notification first showed up. We have no idea where Suunto is going and basic bugs in the app have yet to be fixed. (route elevation profile among others). I realize this is beta but…if the beta compromises what I use the hardware for it is a real problem.

              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                aldnet
                last edited by 29 May 2018, 18:02

                @fleshymutant In my case, no, is not working, in fact the windows app disabled some options after manipulating routes in suunto app.

                Suunto 9 Baro Black (2.11.38)
                Suunto App IOS 1.50.0 (8284)
                iPhone 11 Pro (iOS 14 Beta 4)

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @aldnet
                  last edited by 29 May 2018, 18:04

                  @aldnet said in [iOS] 1.0.1 (6183) Movescount - Suunto Routes restriction:

                  And I don’t know why is so complicated, but yes, elevation bug is still present, in the notes of the version is indicated.

                  I am not talking about the elevation bug in the app for reporting elevation, at least the watch knows what is correct. When you sync a route with SA the breadcrumb syncs (where you are going) but the elevation profile does not so you have no elevation profile for the route…I use the elevation profile more than the breadcrumb track. I reported this bug when route syncing first appeared, it is still not fixed and is a basic functionality of routes implemented on the Spartan.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                    SlaSh Platinum Member @fleshymutant
                    last edited by SlaSh 29 May 2018, 18:04

                    @fleshymutant create route via suunto app sync it to the watch and your sync with Mc and cable is gone 🙂 only watch reset helped to recover it…

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                      aldnet @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by 29 May 2018, 18:07

                      @brad_olwin ok, I see, but today I realize it, when you create a route in Suunto App, I didn’t see the elevation detail in the summary of the route in the app, so I guess is for that in the watch elevation is not there too.

                      I suppose is the way Suunto App (before sports tracker) create routes

                      Suunto 9 Baro Black (2.11.38)
                      Suunto App IOS 1.50.0 (8284)
                      iPhone 11 Pro (iOS 14 Beta 4)

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator
                        last edited by Brad_Olwin 29 May 2018, 18:41

                        Very, very bad… iOS 11.3 and Mac for MC. Spartan 2.0.40

                        This morning I synced a route with the newest SA app (header here). Saw the notice and synced move with SA app, no syncing to MC either with cable or app.

                        Reset watch, erased all routes in SA app, resync watch to MC and route from MC as well as training syncs…all good.

                        Test short move. Sync to SA app (no routes in app and no route syncing from app)

                        NO Syncing to MC either cable or app

                        I am resetting the watch AGAIN.

                        I will delete the SA app

                        My experience: Syncing a route SA, resetting the watch, erase all routes, if you sync with SA you LOSE MC syncing, period.

                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                          johan6504 Silver Members
                          last edited by johan6504 29 May 2018, 18:42

                          I deleted the app till we know more!

                          Runner, Swimmer and Swimrunner

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                            jthomi
                            last edited by 29 May 2018, 18:58

                            But its only in build 6183? If I use an older version the problem doesn’t happen?

                            I have no routes in SA so far, because all my routes are in MC.

                            And what does MC un-safe mode mean?
                            This is really an unfortunate move from Suunto to their not-S3F-owners… ☹ 👎

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                              aldnet @jthomi
                              last edited by 29 May 2018, 19:18

                              @jthomi Yes, Is only build 6183.

                              The scenario that @Brad_Olwin tell us in my case is not reproduced.

                              But yes, perhaps we could avoid build 6183 till things are clarified.

                              Suunto 9 Baro Black (2.11.38)
                              Suunto App IOS 1.50.0 (8284)
                              iPhone 11 Pro (iOS 14 Beta 4)

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                                johan6504 Silver Members
                                last edited by 29 May 2018, 19:26

                                How do you install older versions?

                                Runner, Swimmer and Swimrunner

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                                  SlaSh Platinum Member @johan6504
                                  last edited by 29 May 2018, 19:27

                                  @johan6504 TestFlight > previous builds

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                                    aldnet
                                    last edited by 29 May 2018, 19:28

                                    in the TestFlight app, enter in the Suunto App details, choose option Previous Builds and there you could choose the version to install, the previous one is 1.0.1 (6160)

                                    Suunto 9 Baro Black (2.11.38)
                                    Suunto App IOS 1.50.0 (8284)
                                    iPhone 11 Pro (iOS 14 Beta 4)

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                                      jthomi @aldnet
                                      last edited by 29 May 2018, 19:34

                                      Exactly the thing I will do now until we know more. Really time now for Suunto to clarify things up about Movesount AND / OR SuuntoApp.

                                      @aldnet said in [iOS] 1.0.1 (6183) Movescount - Suunto Routes restriction:

                                      @jthomi Yes, Is only build 6183.

                                      The scenario that @Brad_Olwin tell us in my case is not reproduced.

                                      But yes, perhaps we could avoid build 6183 till things are clarified.

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                                        Shrek3k
                                        last edited by 29 May 2018, 19:55

                                        That is really bad … communication and even more sensivity towards the users 🙄

                                        using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                                        OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                                          SlaSh Platinum Member @Shrek3k
                                          last edited by 29 May 2018, 20:04

                                          @shrek3k that’s why we are beta testers, sometimes such things happens. Imagine such with official app, suunto support wouldn’t be happy…

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