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    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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      @yannis-belouris said in Smart sensor:

      @borgelkranz said in Smart sensor:

      @fleshymutant @Brad_Olwin My problems with the Suunto belts were history once i started to clean them as described here.

      Basically, after each excercise you put the belt in a sink, fill the sink with warm water while washing your hands and let the belt soak for a while. Rinse it off and let it dry.

      Cleaning the belt in the washing machine worns it out. Killed one in roughly six month doing this…

      This is absolutely true.
      I leave it overnight in a small bucket with 2 drops of dish washing detergent and just leave it to dry when I wake up.
      Washing in the washing machine has mixed results due to stronger detergent and potential use of softener.

      I agree cleaning them works but…i noticed that the new belt had a much stronger snap connection to the sensor. I think that removing and snapping the sensor in many times can loosen the snap connectors. No matter how I washed mine it wasn’t working well. The new belt is flawless so I think the belts do wear out as well. I put a lot of hours on mine.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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      • ? Offline
        A Former User @Brad_Olwin
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        @brad_olwin are we supposed to remove the connector after each move?
        Does it use energy when connected?

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        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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          @yannis-belouris said in Smart sensor:

          @brad_olwin are we supposed to remove the connector after each move?
          Does it use energy when connected?

          From my observation it can but not always. For that I always remove it when I remember todo so

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          • suzzloS Offline
            suzzlo Moderator @Brad_Olwin
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            @brad_olwin said in Smart sensor:

            i noticed that the new belt had a much stronger snap connection to the sensor

            I’m confused. New belt? Is there any new Suunto Smart Sensor?

            Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
            Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
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            • Guides - https://forum.suunto.com/tags/guides
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            • Brad_OlwinB Offline
              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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              @yannis-belouris I remove it to wash the belt. But I have heard it can use some energy when connected.

              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              • Frédéric FiandinoF Offline
                Frédéric Fiandino @suzzlo
                last edited by Frédéric Fiandino

                @suzzlo 0_1528383543322_81IoCQ92+SL.SX679.jpg

                A “new belt” is just after purchase

                you can buy it separately

                Race
                S9P with a firmware too
                SSSWHR with a firmware inside
                Ambit 3 Run

                https://runalyze.com/athlete/Fred13270

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @suzzlo
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                  @suzzlo said in Smart sensor:

                  @brad_olwin said in Smart sensor:

                  i noticed that the new belt had a much stronger snap connection to the sensor

                  I’m confused. New belt? Is there any new Suunto Smart Sensor?

                  No, the sensor is the same, but I replace my belt every 9 months on average, they just don’t last more than that for me.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  • suzzloS Offline
                    suzzlo Moderator @Brad_Olwin
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                    @Frédéric-Fiandino @brad_olwin ahhh men… I’m a bit slow today…
                    Thanks!

                    Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
                    Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
                    SA topics:

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                      Michał Muszyński
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                      Hello, I am writing through the translator googel, sorry for mistakes. I bought Suunto 9 with the hope that the problem with the HR sensor will disappear. Unfortunately, the problem still exists. I replaced the elastic strap with a new one, I used it for 7 days and now erroneous readings have appeared during running. The heart rate jumps as if it’s twisted. Tomorrow I am sending the HR sensor to Suunto with the complaint. We’ll see what they’ll do. I will be using the HR sensor from Decatlon for 30 USD with my new Sunnto 9. 😞 I am tired of this situation, I swim in the pool and the lake irritates me that the HR sensor is defective and other sensors do not work while swimming.

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                        @Michał-Muszyński
                        @Yannis-Belouris said in Smart sensor:

                        @borgelkranz said in Smart sensor:

                        @fleshymutant @Brad_Olwin My problems with the Suunto belts were history once i started to clean them as described here.

                        Basically, after each excercise you put the belt in a sink, fill the sink with warm water while washing your hands and let the belt soak for a while. Rinse it off and let it dry.

                        Cleaning the belt in the washing machine worns it out. Killed one in roughly six month doing this…

                        This is absolutely true.
                        I leave it overnight in a small bucket with 2 drops of dish washing detergent and just leave it to dry when I wake up.
                        Washing in the washing machine has mixed results due to stronger detergent and potential use of softener.

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                          Ze Stuart Gold Members @Michał Muszyński
                          last edited by Ze Stuart

                          @Michał-Muszyński said in Smart sensor:

                          Hello, I am writing through the translator googel, sorry for mistakes. I bought Suunto 9 with the hope that the problem with the HR sensor will disappear. Unfortunately, the problem still exists. I replaced the elastic strap with a new one, I used it for 7 days and now erroneous readings have appeared during running. The heart rate jumps as if it’s twisted. Tomorrow I am sending the HR sensor to Suunto with the complaint. We’ll see what they’ll do. I will be using the HR sensor from Decatlon for 30 USD with my new Sunnto 9. 😞 I am tired of this situation, I swim in the pool and the lake irritates me that the HR sensor is defective and other sensors do not work while swimming.

                          Hi Michał: I swim with my 9 and the Suunto Smart sensor and it’s fine, as long as I don’t drive incredibly hard at the beginning of the length (all belts have this problem). I wet the strap before I put it on, as they stretch by ~30% when wet, and just before I start swimming it feels very tight. After that, it’s fine, and I get good, clean HR data. I blogged about it a bit here: https://t.co/KOJhi6CQlb

                          Regarding the optical sensor, the consensus is that if one is serious about HR data, one uses a chest strap. Optical isn’t good for applications where there’s movement, and the water buffeting the watch with each stroke definitely counts as movement. I really like optical for background monitoring - sleeping, for example, or perhaps hiking - but for everything else I always use a chest strap, or an optical that’s not on my wrist (Wahoo TICKR FIT, or the Schosche (sp?) Rhythm 24, or the Polar OH1, for example).

                          Smooth swimming!

                          https://zulusierra.co

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                            SlaSh Platinum Member @Ze Stuart
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                            @Ze-Stuart but your hr looks really funky if it is belt…

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                            • Ze StuartZ Offline
                              Ze Stuart Gold Members @SlaSh
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                              @SlaSh said in Smart sensor:

                              @Ze-Stuart but your hr looks really funky if it is belt…

                              It corresponds to when I’m swimming front crawl, which for me is a lot like trying not to drown, and when I’m swimming breast stroke, which is a lot more comfortable. The big gap is when I’ve decided to stop drowning simulations, and take in the view of the pool… Here’s today’s swim, which I think is easier to interpret:

                              0_1532639240877_7d5bf214-d841-44aa-9dd7-9a40408115ba-image.png

                              I think the initial drop is the mammalian reflex (drop in HR upon face immersion), and then I swam 6 lengths of crawl, 6 or so of breast stroke, then alternated for the rest of the swim, until the end when I did two of crawl. I was using a PowerBreather snorkel today, so no drowning simulation!

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                                SlaSh Platinum Member @Ze Stuart
                                last edited by SlaSh

                                @Ze-Stuart below graph is from SA and looks terrible, I don’t see value from Powerbreather when doing breaststroke as breathing is quite easy in that style, but in freestyle it would benefit.
                                0_1532665078806_2DB320E6-35E3-4155-8E62-3B31C2FAA900.png

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                                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Michał Muszyński
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                                  @Michał-Muszyński Suunto has acknowledged a software issue with the sensor. I am not having issues but some are. Fix hopefully soon

                                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                  • N Offline
                                    Niko Hämäläinen
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                                    Is there a way of telling Spartan Wrist HR to disconnect the Smart Sensor after a workout? Other than unpairing it? Seems like mine stays on for a good while even after unplugging it from the belt and placing the sensor on a table. While the connection is active, the watch refuses to measure HR with the optics. Optimal solution would be to have an option to select which HR sensor to use, or if any.

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                                    • Ze StuartZ Offline
                                      Ze Stuart Gold Members @SlaSh
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                                      @SlaSh that bug is also present in the watch; there’s a thread about it… somewhere!

                                      https://zulusierra.co

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                                        Maybe it helps:

                                        When using the sensor in the water please:

                                        • Start the excersise when the sensor is connected and shows HR working. If not done like this it will use OHR and will not send the command to the HR sensor to record.
                                        • When ending the excersise do not do in water. Get out or make sure sensor + watch are out of the water and the watch has HR signal. For example when done, press pause, get out of the water, switch the screens on the pause to see the live HR. Then press end. The watch will pull the recorded HR from the sensor (also does it while paused).

                                        I hope this helps

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                                          SlaSh Platinum Member @Ze Stuart
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                                          @Ze-Stuart this is your swim workout screenshot 🙂

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                                          • Ze StuartZ Offline
                                            Ze Stuart Gold Members @SlaSh
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                                            @SlaSh I know, I recognise the bad data…

                                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos superb, basic steps.

                                            https://zulusierra.co

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