Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?
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@Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
is the resting heart rate the same as the minimum heart rate?
No, not really.
Resting heart rate = Your resting heart rate, or pulse, is the number of times your heart beats per minute when you are at rest — such as when you are relaxed, sitting or lying down.
Minimum heart rate = During sleep, it is normal for a person’s heart rate to slow down below the range for a typical resting heart rate. Between 40 to 50 beats per minute (bpm) is considered an average sleeping heart rate for adults, though this can vary depending on multiple factors
Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti
Current: Suunto Race Ti
Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2
Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14
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@mikekoski490 I think you are right, but Suunto gives the advice to choose the minimum HR at Night as resting HR… but this is not correct…
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@SuperFlo75 Oh. I was just doing the strict definitions. No, I would definitely not apply my minimum during sleep as a resting HR value. I would more look at what my average sleep HR is, so yes Suunto is not correct there.
Last night for example, my Average sleep = 53 (which is about right) vs my Minimum sleep = 49
Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti
Current: Suunto Race Ti
Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2
Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14
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@zhang965 Hey thanks for your reply. I was more concerned with the terminology. Resting Heart Rate and Minimum Average Heart Rate. Should that be the same, the minimum heart rate in my case is actually still below 50 because it is only an average of the last 7 days. However, if resting heart rate means the frequency that is measured, for example, when sitting without stress and strain, that is certainly a different value. Then I would have to set the clock differently… But I agree with you that you should listen to your body and not to an algorithm
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@mikekoski490 yes, that‘s what I did. This sounds plausible for me…
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@Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
@zhang965 Hey thanks for your reply. I was more concerned with the terminology. Resting Heart Rate and Minimum Average Heart Rate. Should that be the same, the minimum heart rate in my case is actually still below 50 because it is only an average of the last 7 days. However, if resting heart rate means the frequency that is measured, for example, when sitting without stress and strain, that is certainly a different value. Then I would have to set the clock differently… But I agree with you that you should listen to your body and not to an algorithm
Thanks again for your assessmentResting Heart Rate and Minimum Average Heart Rate are not the same, you should use your rest HR which is when you are awake as your minimum HR.
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@mikekoski490 thanks for the clarification… then I have to adjust the value in my watch… however then the minimum heart rate value is not really useful in the app. What could the value be interesting for…
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@SuperFlo75 ok, really? Suunto says so? really the minimum heart rate? Interesting… then I would have actually set the watch correctly…
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It doesn’t matter what you enter for your resting HR. The resources feature has some bugs. If you do a light activity resources can even drop from 100% to 0%. But it seems that Suunto will move away from FirstBeat later this year. Then this might be fixed (or the feature completely removed/replaced by something else).
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@Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
@mikekoski490 thanks for the clarification… then I have to adjust the value in my watch… however then the minimum heart rate value is not really useful in the app. What could the value be interesting for…
Measurements are useful when looking at trends over time for me and basing your min/max values against those trends.
If I’m getting sick or overtraining, sometimes I don’t always feel anything obvious, but if my heart rate values start to go up over a few nights its something I want to pay attention to and adjust training and rest accordingly.
Ive noticed if Im getting bad sleeps or overtrained, my minimum HR while sleeping starts trending up. Ive seen my minimum be as high as 54, and average resting HR while sleeping at 58. This just happened last week, and on the weekend realized I had caught a cold.
Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti
Current: Suunto Race Ti
Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2
Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14
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@mikekoski490 okay verstehe! Vielen Dank für deine Erklärung
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@mikekoski490 okay I see! Thank you for your explanation
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@Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
@SuperFlo75 ok, really? Suunto says so? really the minimum heart rate? Interesting… then I would have actually set the watch correctly…
You can read it here…
https://www.suunto.com/de-de/Support/Produktsupport/suunto_vertical/suunto_vertical/widgets/ressourcen/But it is not correct in my opinion…
Suunto Vertical Titanium Forest/Dark Ruby/UTMB/Courtney_Edition
Suunto Wing
Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium (owns my wife now)
Suunto Spartan Ultra
SA iOS 2.43.0 (18473)
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@mikekoski490 said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
@Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
@mikekoski490 thanks for the clarification… then I have to adjust the value in my watch… however then the minimum heart rate value is not really useful in the app. What could the value be interesting for…
Measurements are useful when looking at trends over time for me and basing your min/max values against those trends.
If I’m getting sick or overtraining, sometimes I don’t always feel anything obvious, but if my heart rate values start to go up over a few nights its something I want to pay attention to and adjust training and rest accordingly.
Ive noticed if Im getting bad sleeps or overtrained, my minimum HR while sleeping starts trending up. Ive seen my minimum be as high as 54, and average resting HR while sleeping at 58. This just happened last week, and on the weekend realized I had caught a cold.
I noticed this, too… the heart rate in the night was higher than normal, and now I‘ve got a summer flu… 🥲
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@wmichi oh, that explains a lot then…
Thanks for the info… Wasn’t Firstbeat bought by Garmin
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@SuperFlo75 thanks for that. Yes I find that confusing
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@SuperFlo75 said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
@Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
@SuperFlo75 ok, really? Suunto says so? really the minimum heart rate? Interesting… then I would have actually set the watch correctly…
You can read it here…
https://www.suunto.com/de-de/Support/Produktsupport/suunto_vertical/suunto_vertical/widgets/ressourcen/But it is not correct in my opinion…
in the page, it mentioned very clearly : Rest HR
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@GiPFELKiND said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
i asked suunto Support the vertical, the 9P the 9PP And the 9 Baro dont have HRV.
Under Sleep quality… HRV is not exposed to the users, but it is available (at least is the claim)
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@zhang965 Yes, and the Rest HR is not the minimum HR during Night…
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@SuperFlo75 said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:
@zhang965 Yes, and the Rest HR is not the minimum HR during Night…
we are messed up
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