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    zhang965 @Sascha Domres
    last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 16:37

    @Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

    @zhang965 Hey thanks for your reply. I was more concerned with the terminology. Resting Heart Rate and Minimum Average Heart Rate. Should that be the same, the minimum heart rate in my case is actually still below 50 because it is only an average of the last 7 days. However, if resting heart rate means the frequency that is measured, for example, when sitting without stress and strain, that is certainly a different value. Then I would have to set the clock differently… But I agree with you that you should listen to your body and not to an algorithm 👍😊 Thanks again for your assessment

    Resting Heart Rate and Minimum Average Heart Rate are not the same, you should use your rest HR which is when you are awake as your minimum HR.

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      Sascha Domres Bronze Member @mikekoski490
      last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 16:43

      @mikekoski490 thanks for the clarification… then I have to adjust the value in my watch… however then the minimum heart rate value is not really useful in the app. What could the value be interesting for…

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        Sascha Domres Bronze Member @SuperFlo75
        last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 16:47

        @SuperFlo75 ok, really? Suunto says so? really the minimum heart rate? Interesting… then I would have actually set the watch correctly…🤔

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          wmichi
          last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 16:54

          It doesn’t matter what you enter for your resting HR. The resources feature has some bugs. If you do a light activity resources can even drop from 100% to 0%. But it seems that Suunto will move away from FirstBeat later this year. Then this might be fixed (or the feature completely removed/replaced by something else).

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            mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Sascha Domres
            last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 16:59

            @Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

            @mikekoski490 thanks for the clarification… then I have to adjust the value in my watch… however then the minimum heart rate value is not really useful in the app. What could the value be interesting for…

            Measurements are useful when looking at trends over time for me and basing your min/max values against those trends.

            If I’m getting sick or overtraining, sometimes I don’t always feel anything obvious, but if my heart rate values start to go up over a few nights its something I want to pay attention to and adjust training and rest accordingly.

            Ive noticed if Im getting bad sleeps or overtrained, my minimum HR while sleeping starts trending up. Ive seen my minimum be as high as 54, and average resting HR while sleeping at 58. This just happened last week, and on the weekend realized I had caught a cold.

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              Sascha Domres Bronze Member @mikekoski490
              last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:02

              @mikekoski490 okay verstehe! Vielen Dank für deine Erklärung

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                Sascha Domres Bronze Member @mikekoski490
                last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:03

                @mikekoski490 okay I see! Thank you for your explanation

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                  SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @Sascha Domres
                  last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:03

                  @Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

                  @SuperFlo75 ok, really? Suunto says so? really the minimum heart rate? Interesting… then I would have actually set the watch correctly…🤔

                  You can read it here…
                  https://www.suunto.com/de-de/Support/Produktsupport/suunto_vertical/suunto_vertical/widgets/ressourcen/

                  But it is not correct in my opinion…

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                    SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @mikekoski490
                    last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:06

                    @mikekoski490 said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

                    @Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

                    @mikekoski490 thanks for the clarification… then I have to adjust the value in my watch… however then the minimum heart rate value is not really useful in the app. What could the value be interesting for…

                    Measurements are useful when looking at trends over time for me and basing your min/max values against those trends.

                    If I’m getting sick or overtraining, sometimes I don’t always feel anything obvious, but if my heart rate values start to go up over a few nights its something I want to pay attention to and adjust training and rest accordingly.

                    Ive noticed if Im getting bad sleeps or overtrained, my minimum HR while sleeping starts trending up. Ive seen my minimum be as high as 54, and average resting HR while sleeping at 58. This just happened last week, and on the weekend realized I had caught a cold.

                    I noticed this, too… the heart rate in the night was higher than normal, and now I‘ve got a summer flu… 🥲

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                      Sascha Domres Bronze Member @wmichi
                      last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:06

                      @wmichi oh, that explains a lot then…😊 Thanks for the info… Wasn’t Firstbeat bought by Garmin😉

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                        Sascha Domres Bronze Member @SuperFlo75
                        last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:07

                        @SuperFlo75 thanks for that. Yes I find that confusing

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                          zhang965 @SuperFlo75
                          last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:13

                          @SuperFlo75 said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

                          @Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

                          @SuperFlo75 ok, really? Suunto says so? really the minimum heart rate? Interesting… then I would have actually set the watch correctly…🤔

                          You can read it here…
                          https://www.suunto.com/de-de/Support/Produktsupport/suunto_vertical/suunto_vertical/widgets/ressourcen/

                          But it is not correct in my opinion…

                          in the page, it mentioned very clearly : Rest HR

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                            A Former User @GiPFELKiND
                            last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:20

                            @GiPFELKiND said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

                            i asked suunto Support the vertical, the 9P the 9PP And the 9 Baro dont have HRV.

                            https://www.suunto.com/en-nl/Support/Product-support/suunto_9_peak_pro/suunto_9_peak_pro/widgets/sleep/

                            Under Sleep quality… HRV is not exposed to the users, but it is available (at least is the claim)

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                              SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @zhang965
                              last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:54

                              @zhang965 Yes, and the Rest HR is not the minimum HR during Night…
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                                zhang965 @SuperFlo75
                                last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 18:35

                                @SuperFlo75 said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

                                @zhang965 Yes, and the Rest HR is not the minimum HR during Night…
                                IMG_9925.jpeg

                                we are messed up

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                                  Sascha Domres Bronze Member @zhang965
                                  last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 18:59

                                  @zhang965 yes thats my Point…

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                                    herlas Silver Members @Sascha Domres
                                    last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 20:02

                                    @Sascha-Domres Oura ring also labels lowest HR during sleep as RHR 🤷‍♂️

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                                      Sascha Domres Bronze Member @herlas
                                      last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 09:30

                                      @herlas thanks…

                                      I chatted with the support… They want me to set the minimum heart rate… confusing…

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                                        Sascha Domres Bronze Member @zhang965
                                        last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 09:32

                                        @zhang965 confusing…I chatted with the support… They want me to Set the minimum heart rate…

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                                          freeheeler @Sascha Domres
                                          last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 09:46

                                          @Sascha-Domres
                                          I’ve adjusted it based on your comment, let’s see how it behaves. normally I’ve used my avg sleep HR plus 10 as rest HR.
                                          I now took my 7 days lowest avg sleep HR as “rest” HR

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