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    altcmd Silver Members @sartoric
    last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 07:43

    For starters, is it really difficult for Suunto to optimise their software so as to minimise lag between screens (watch face to widget)? Release a €800 watch and still laggy. Then there is the constant calibrations on altimeter and compass. Guides are good but half-baked, in my opinion.

    I love the watch but some issues continue to persist. Would appreciate if Suunto showed its own software some love.

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      A Former User @altcmd
      last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 09:27

      @altcmd +1 on this one. I honestly don’t care about the watchface, but what really bothers me, is the UI lag. Not sure if someone has used a Coros or Garmin recently, but it’s a totally difference experience. Despite many many faults, I still like the watch, but I don’t get why a watch in 2023 is so slow… there’s no reason for that.

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        zhang965 @Guest
        last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 09:30

        @tomasbartko said in PLZ fix the Vertical…:

        @altcmd +1 on this one. I honestly don’t care about the watchface, but what really bothers me, is the UI lag. Not sure if someone has used a Coros or Garmin recently, but it’s a totally difference experience. Despite many many faults, I still like the watch, but I don’t get why a watch in 2023 is so slow… there’s no reason for that.

        Please don’t call it’s slow, it is Zen.

        Winners Wear Winners

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          A Former User @zhang965
          last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 09:32

          @zhang965 said in PLZ fix the Vertical…:

          @tomasbartko said in PLZ fix the Vertical…:

          @altcmd +1 on this one. I honestly don’t care about the watchface, but what really bothers me, is the UI lag. Not sure if someone has used a Coros or Garmin recently, but it’s a totally difference experience. Despite many many faults, I still like the watch, but I don’t get why a watch in 2023 is so slow… there’s no reason for that.

          Please don’t call it’s slow, it is Zen.

          I love your optimism, I wish I can reach this level once …

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            isazi Moderator @altcmd
            last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 09:41

            @altcmd it is not just software optimization, in some cases it is the screen refresh rate that is slow. Anyway, widgets will change with next software release (this also reduces the lag for reasons).

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

            Blog: isazi's home

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              TyreseJ4 @isazi
              last edited by TyreseJ4 21 Aug 2023, 10:19

              @isazi Will the Suunto 9 be getting any updates to fix crashing? I’d love to use it but I can’t. After further testing it appears the problem is when the device is trying to load external sensors (HRM, STRYD, etc.). I want to get the Vertical but there’s no way I’m going to get the new if they cannot fix the old. I’d rather not replace one problem with another.

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                A Former User @TyreseJ4
                last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 11:21

                @TyreseJ4 said in PLZ fix the Vertical…:

                @isazi Will the Suunto 9 be getting any updates to fix crashing? I’d love to use it but I can’t. After further testing it appears the problem is when the device is trying to load external sensors (HRM, STRYD, etc.). I want to get the Vertical but there’s no way I’m going to get the new if they cannot fix the old. I’d rather not replace one problem with another.

                I want to believe that if all Suunto 9 users had that issue not only we would see more complaints but also that Suunto would communicate on your side.
                If I was on your side I would try reset and if it didn’t solve roll back to previous version of firmware and see if problems persists .

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                  isazi Moderator @TyreseJ4
                  last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 11:28

                  @TyreseJ4 I cannot promise anything. On my side, I reported the crashes with logs that were reported on this forum to Suunto, so they are aware of the specifics. Cannot do more than this myself.

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                  Blog: isazi's home

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                    Ollipolli @Frank Stefan
                    last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 11:41

                    @Frank-Stefan genau so sehe ich das auch 👍

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                      stromdiddily Gold Members
                      last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 15:52

                      Personally would really like multiple alarms. One repeating for weekdays and one for weekends

                      Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                      User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                        e6321 Bronze Member
                        last edited by 22 Aug 2023, 19:05

                        Step counter is basic stuff these days but its completely useless on the the vertical.
                        Same goes for resources, sleep tracking etc. essentially pointless, im not even sure anyone would have missed them if they weren’t present at launch.
                        Imo if these metrics aren’t accurate what value do they add and why not just focus on other things?

                        Im hopeful for a significant update but I do worry with the way things are at the moment.
                        I (and many others) got burned by Suunto many years ago with the original ambit. I hope this wont end up being the same.

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                          altcmd Silver Members @e6321
                          last edited by 22 Aug 2023, 20:11

                          A few here rightly hold the opinion that these quantified metrics are a flawed approach to training and I agree at some level. The challenge is that Suunto is not the market and is in no position to dictate what gets sold in the market. To survive it either needs to play along or carve a niche. Unfortunately, to survive Suunto needs volume and to get volume, the software needs to play ball. Currently, the way Suunto has gone about its software maintenance suggests that it will be another one that will wither. What was meant to be a significant change with the Spartan in some sense was overwritten after the 9P.
                          As I said earlier, when and in what form the software updates arrive will indicate to me how much Suunto cares about its software. Let’s see if it is tomorrow or 31 Dec.

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                            A Former User @altcmd
                            last edited by A Former User 22 Aug 2023, 21:35

                            @altcmd said in PLZ fix the Vertical…:

                            A few here rightly hold the opinion that these quantified metrics are a flawed approach to training and I agree at some level. The challenge is that Suunto is not the market and is in no position to dictate what gets sold in the market. To survive it either needs to play along or carve a niche. Unfortunately, to survive Suunto needs volume and to get volume, the software needs to play ball. Currently, the way Suunto has gone about its software maintenance suggests that it will be another one that will wither. What was meant to be a significant change with the Spartan in some sense was overwritten after the 9P.
                            As I said earlier, when and in what form the software updates arrive will indicate to me how much Suunto cares about its software. Let’s see if it is tomorrow or 31 Dec.

                            Let’s believe Suunto is doing the best they can with what they have. Hence they are now talking about changing algorithm provider. And I want to believe that those metrics worked for some testers.
                            I think it is not a matter of caring, it will be a matter of being able to do it.

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                              altcmd Silver Members @Guest
                              last edited by altcmd 23 Aug 2023, 04:30

                              @André-Faria I am sure Suunto is trying but saying ‘if they are able to’ is rather defeatist. Hire the right people to push your software. And yes, I do want to believe what some testers are saying about how the new algos are working but the reality is my personal experience here matters and that will happen when there is an update. Let’s see!

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                                zhang965 @altcmd
                                last edited by 23 Aug 2023, 04:54

                                @altcmd said in PLZ fix the Vertical…:

                                André-Faria I am sure Suunto is trying but saying ‘if they are able to’ is rather defeatist. Hire the right people to push your software. And yes, I do want to believe what some testers are saying about how the new algos are working but the reality is my personal experience here matters and that will happen when there is an update. Let’s see!

                                Which testers said that…

                                Winners Wear Winners

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