Avalanche terrain map on the watch

freeheeler

@Stefan-Kersting
with the weather widget, I’ve asked for a report about total amount of rain/snow for the last 24h and few days. but I assume it could give a false feeling of safety.
as you say, it’s complex and many things need to be taken into account. wind direction, speed, temperature, snow base built etc.
and finally we must be honest to ourselves and need to be bold and strong to say no when it’s the right time.

some years ago I went on a skitour with my wife. the day before the level was at 4 and the final ascent to the summit is 45°.
I told her from the start it’s still level 3 and we are skipping the summit and go for an “alternative summit” in safe distance. interestingly, we meet 3 locals there. while we took off the skins and ate a sandwich, we saw groups passing by, heading directly into the summit ascent.
spoiler: nothing happened.
one local and I were observing the situation and he was shaking his head, too.
I was ready to grab the beacon, probe and shovel, anyway.
sometimes it needs one bold or carefree person and hordes will follow

Stefan Kersting

@freeheeler it depends on what you are using the information for. It’s intersting to know the total amount of snow if you want to know if it will be a deep day or not But you don’t get the whole picture. We often take short cuts and thats something that is left from our time in the caves. So this kind of information could be such a shortcut that could lead to bad decisions.

In Norway we have som mountain rules and one of them is “It is not a shame to turn and go back”. So don’t be a sheep and follow the others without thinking

In May i was on a backcountry tour and just under the summit we did the lunch break. I don’t remember which level we had but it was more than reported. Right before the lunch break theres was an avalanche. To this point we went up all the way <30 degrees

tuxella

Indeed, having the avalanche map available on the watch wouldn’t make it the only tool to use.

We already have to juggle with multiple apps (mobile or desktop) with different capabilities (online only or offline capable, 2D or 3D), for different uses (planing a trip, sharing plans, tracking) and map layers (by country, slope angle, recent avalanches, avalanche terrain, terrain hazard, dynamically taking latest avalanche report and risk reduction method into account…).

tuxella

The 2025 Q2 Vertical firmware release notes says

New winter map styles

Does this new map style include the slope? Could someone enjoying the mountains send us a picture in action?

VoiGAS

@tuxella Someone from the southern hemisphaere maybe? Its a winter map after all

isazi

@tuxella no, it is just different rendering of the same data

tuxella

@isazi Thank you, this is what I guessed when I realised it didn’t require to re-download maps.

Let’s hope this will come one day

Stefano M64

The past Sunday I had a short snowshoes hike and realized that it’s really a pity that the avalanche map isn’t available directly on the watch. Notwithstanding all the above discussed limitations, it gives a zero-level information on the potentially dangerous areas and it would be helpful especially if you are forced to change your planned itinerary.

vinc14

I don’t think it’s worth looking at avalanche terrain at this point, on the small watch. Plan ahead and mark tricky spots with waypoints.

https://www.skitourenguru.ch/

Stefan Kersting

In Norway we have a dedicated app with avalanche informasjon and a slope map on the web. It would be nice to see the same colors on suuntos avalanche map:

https://regobs.no/?hazard=10&competence=100~0~110~115~120~130~150&orderBy=changeTime&daysBack=2&nwLat=67.6743&nwLon=15.6756&seLat=67.6374&seLon=15.8694

tuxella

@Stefan-Kersting I just discovered Norway uses slightly different colours from the ones used in national cartographic institutes in France and Switzerland:

France

Switzerland

Norway

Skitourenguru

Suunto

I guess users from every country can’t be happy at once. But at least Suunto could refrain from adding another color range.