Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak
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@vinay said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:
(…) The compass on the other hand though, I think it really makes sense for a day to day tool. With the Ambit 2S I often just looked at the map, decided which direction to head into without actually planning a route. Without compass, you already need to have your route and/or waypoints.
This is the only thing that I really don’t understand - why the S5 line is lacking a compass. To have a watch with GPS navigation, routing, tight integration with SA, made by a company who likes to emphasize the importance of experience of outdoors. But there’s still no compass, which seems to be a simple and essential tool for navigation. Not to mention that it leads to absurdities in UX when using navigation.
It’s a nice watch that got a lifting, it’s lighter, feels fresh in terms of design but it’s still lacking that essential component. I don’t get it.
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@łukasz-szmigiel I agree completely. Seems a little confusing when at the S5P announcement event in Spain they went so deep into the heritage of Suunto as the first mass produced compass company and yet S5P doesn’t have one. Even the spartan sport had one…
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@northeast_trekker said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:
@łukasz-szmigiel I agree completely. Seems a little confusing when at the S5P announcement event in Spain they went so deep into the heritage of Suunto as the first mass produced compass company and yet S5P doesn’t have one. Even the spartan sport had one…
Yes I got that too. Especially the part with the beginning of diving-related products inspired by a man who noticed that his compass was still functioning after being submerged in water. I even got downvoted for pointing it out in this thread
I mean - I find Suunto’s marketing done really, really well. It’s delicious in most cases. But it’s hard for me not to see such nuissance
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@northeast_trekker Does the Spartan Sport have a compass? It was my first watch after the Ambit 2S and I was surprised to not find a compass as I just expected it there without actually checking up front. However, I recall checking the specs again and indeed I think it wasn’t mentioned. In a way though, from a technical/sales perspective it makes sense. Just like OHR and barometer, it takes another specific piece of hardware to be integrated on the board. Unlike software fixes, it actually costs money for every single product. And they chose the compass and barometer sensors would only be spec’d on the higher end watches. A marketing choice and as long as enough people are happy with a watch without those sensors, there is a place for the 5 the way it is.
One thing that would be nice is if there were a separate Bluetooth compass available, just like you can have other sensors or how the 3 even uses the GPS of the connected phone. So say you strap the compass to your SUP (paddleboard), you can still watch your heading on the watch without kneeling down (to read the compass) or hold your lower arm perpendicular to the board.
But back to the original confusion, it would indeed be easiest to understand if the “Peak” version of the 5 has baro and compass and the regular doesn’t. The way it seems now, it is actually the regular 5 which is the more robust product (considering the waterproof rating and the bezel protecting the screen) and the “Peak” version is for the more mellow everyday life.
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I must agree that compass is missing in current S5 and new S5P. Navigation would work much better with compas.
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S5 Peak arrived today
It’s amazingly light and I can confirm what @Brad_Olwin already said, that the display is brighter than that of the S5 (non Peak)
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@chrisa Beautiful!
Now go and get some dots over the letters of the days
t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S All Black, Race S Titanium Canary
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@chrisa Quick! I thought they would not be shipped until mid February
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@surfboomerang yes got notification of shipment on Friday
.Some more pics (had network problems first
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@egika yesss
. Can’t really run far at the moment, but will give it a try for some indoor workouts this week and if possible run a little -
@chrisa Is the functional part of the screen actually bigger than that of the regular 5 or is it the same? The 5 peak indeed seems to have a brighter screen though personally I’m happy enough with that of the regular 5 (which I think is clearer than that of the Spartan Sport). Though I usually don’t train in super bright daylight, so I can imagine others who do would appreciate the brightest screen out there. It seems that Suunto now relies on color screens for their interfaces, but I feel there may still be people out there who’d prefer a monochrome screen for their purposes. I haven’t seen anything clearer than my Ambit 3 Peak.
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@vinay Fully agree, Suunto should consider an e-ink display which will boost readability and battery life. Color does not provide much value when the display is hard to read.
My main concerns are still readability and the small screen with a limited amount of pixels. An e-ink display would solve these issues. -
@vinay from what I just measured it’s the same size. Here under artificial light side by side (for size comparison of the inner display).
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@vinay said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:
@chrisa Is the functional part of the screen actually bigger than that of the regular 5 or is it the same? The 5 peak indeed seems to have a brighter screen though personally I’m happy enough with that of the regular 5 (which I think is clearer than that of the Spartan Sport). Though I usually don’t train in super bright daylight, so I can imagine others who do would appreciate the brightest screen out there. It seems that Suunto now relies on color screens for their interfaces, but I feel there may still be people out there who’d prefer a monochrome screen for their purposes. I haven’t seen anything clearer than my Ambit 3 Peak.
curious to read your opinion. On dcrainmaker review it was one of the bad points.
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@vinay I had a spartan sport whr and it had a compass.
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@andré-faria I read that too, but I can’t really follow. Here’s another pic together with a Garmin Forerunner 245, which is similar in size in daylight and with backlight
For me there’s no huge difference 🧐. The S5 Peaks backlight is dimmer in the dark though when you raise your wrist and perhaps that’s what he refers to? Tried to capture it with the phone
It’s okay and I can read it without glasses (being 52) but it would be nice if you could adjust brightness (e.g. from low - medium - high)
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Changing the excellent, but rather heavy band of the S5 Peak for an aftermarket nylon strap (used this with the Polar) drops the S5s weight with band to under 30g making it really hardly noticeable
And makes it lighter than the Coros Pace 2 (29g) for which Coros states it’s the lightest GPS watch in the market
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@chrisa wow that’s a very low weight, I need that strap
. I agree with your comments there is no problem reading the watch.Tu comunidad Suunto en Telegram: https://t.me/suuntocommunity (spanish)
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@chrisa said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:
@andré-faria I read that too, but I can’t really follow. Here’s another pic together with a Garmin Forerunner 245, which is similar in size in daylight and with backlight
For me there’s no huge difference 🧐. The S5 Peaks backlight is dimmer in the dark though when you raise your wrist and perhaps that’s what he refers to? Tried to capture it with the phone
It’s okay and I can read it without glasses (being 52) but it would be nice if you could adjust brightness (e.g. from low - medium - high)
Thanks for sharing your feedback.
I saw on the video (and asked to confirm) and the S5p still continues to be slow on some menus.
At the time I had the FR45/245/F6SS and they were all much more imediate than the S9P.
It was already explained here the motive (stability), but on my side, I think it degrades a bit the experience.
But one thing is for sure…the design and confort of S9P and I beliee the S5P is amazing.
If the new algo proves to be reliable for non baro devices, I think it can lead to good sales. Hope so! -
@andré-faria one thing at a time I assume. Suunto has already improved the design, next alti algorithm, next structured workouts maybe, who knows if watch UX design is on the way.
