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Subterranean outdoor activities with Galileo

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    DMytro @Łukasz Szmigiel
    last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 20:38

    @łukasz-szmigiel I use Galileo and it’s there every time I rush the wait. I’ll try other combinations out of interest.

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      Tomas5 @DMytro
      last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 20:47

      @dmytro i use galileo too.

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        Łukasz Szmigiel
        last edited by 14 Apr 2022, 18:34

        Just a friendly reminder that a gigantic drop of altitude at the beginning of the activity is still there, mostly when using two GNSS, oftentimes Galileo. This is very frustrating, especially now when we have a brand new ascent / descent algorithm. Any chances it’s going to get fixed?

        S9PP 2.40.44

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          Tomas5 @Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by Tomas5 14 Apr 2022, 19:01

          @łukasz-szmigiel did’t tried it yet with new firmware but since you mentioned it last time. I was looking at this and i have this issue too. Not every time but usualy it is few tenths or even hundreds meters. But there are some exceptions without any altitude drop. I use gps + galileo all the time. If weather stay good i will report tomorrow test with latest firmware. And in my case it starts on higher altitude and then drops down to real altitude. I just noticed you have it in oposite direction.

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            Łukasz Szmigiel @Tomas5
            last edited by 14 Apr 2022, 21:30

            @tomas5 it typically drops from too high, approx 70 - 90 meters during first 30 - 60s of workout

            S9PP 2.40.44

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              Tomas5 @Łukasz Szmigiel
              last edited by 16 Apr 2022, 15:44

              @łukasz-szmigiel i been on bike today, no issue with altitude drop at begining. But before i pressed start i was waiting for another minute after green gps icon apeared because i was setting up navigation and suunto plus feature.

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                Łukasz Szmigiel @Tomas5
                last edited by 16 Apr 2022, 16:13

                @tomas5 this is well known. Although I’d like to know whether I should wait for ten more seconds or two more minutes.

                S9PP 2.40.44

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                  freeheeler @Łukasz Szmigiel
                  last edited by 17 Apr 2022, 12:16

                  @łukasz-szmigiel
                  it is the first time I see it that obvious since the campground is really flat.
                  in this case, yes it would be helpful to distinguish between satellite lock and “altitude lock” 🙂

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                  living sideways

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                    isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                    last edited by 17 Apr 2022, 16:56

                    @freeheeler for activities shorter than 15 minutes the issue is that fusedalti may not kick in.

                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                      freeheeler @isazi
                      last edited by 17 Apr 2022, 18:02

                      @isazi
                      I know, it was around 30mins

                      living sideways

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                        Tomas5 @freeheeler
                        last edited by 18 Apr 2022, 15:53

                        Today on bike i didn’t have problem with altitude at beginning. But it is funny that lowest point is 375m, highest point is 979m. But my ascent is only 557m which is less than difference between lowest and highest point. By suunto app map planer it should be around 800m. But without barometer i don’t have big expectations from this measurement.

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                          Łukasz Szmigiel @Tomas5
                          last edited by 18 Apr 2022, 20:07

                          @tomas5 I don’t expect it to be perfect. I just want to know when to start the activity 😄 my experience when trekking is that I usually get 1 - 3m error in altitude when checking on marked peaks, with S5 and Galileo. And I find it remarkable.

                          S9PP 2.40.44

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                            isazi Moderator @Tomas5
                            last edited by 18 Apr 2022, 21:31

                            @tomas5 yes depending on the route itself you may see less ascent with baroless devices because of the 7m threshold.

                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                            Blog: isazi's home

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                              Tomas5 @isazi
                              last edited by 19 Apr 2022, 05:35

                              @isazi yes probably this reason, when i checked altitude against marked peaks I have same result as @Łukasz-Szmigiel usually few meters difference, only rarely few tens of meters.

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                                Tomas5 @Tomas5
                                last edited by 3 May 2022, 06:39

                                I started to commute to work on bike sometimes. As i don’t have time at morning, i wait just for green icon to appear and last two rides i started at 450 altitude but graphs started on around 700 and dropped in few minutes. Now this issue starts to be more obvious for me.

                                Is there any feature request i can vote for to fix this issue at least in app after sync ?

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                                  freeheeler @Tomas5
                                  last edited by 3 May 2022, 08:05

                                  @tomas5
                                  I support this feature request! we should be informed if

                                  1. the satellites are locked
                                  2. the precision is good enough to get the correct altitude (for baro versions also with FusedAlti)

                                  I have made various observations regarding start altitude but also alti change during an activity on a totally flat track, that I can not explain. It would be good to do some improvements here, or let’s say to inform the user by GUI improvements about the status of the watch.

                                  living sideways

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