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Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans

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    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Jamie BG
    last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 00:05

    @Jamie-BG My understanding was development was from scratch. WearOS is completely different and Suunto spent considerable time optimizing the battery life. I’ve concluded this from reading about the release and some interviews. One would have to agree that for a WearOS watch, sports battery life was essential. Given that I think it likely a completely new development effort, I am amazed at how similar the entire experience is.

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      Aleksander H Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
      last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 09:58

      @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

      Given that I think it likely a completely new development effort, I am amazed at how similar the entire experience is.

      That’s my impression as well. I’m impressed by the app given this was likely done from scratch. The interface looks great and feels like it’s made by people who understand workout watches. The fact that it’s a Wear OS app also gives me hope that it will be (relatively) easy to keep bringing new features to the S7, even after it gets replaced by a new model, as they will hopefully simply be running the same app.

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
        last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 11:44

        S7 to S9/5 etc is 100% different. Starting with the programming language used.

        There might be common parts ie some logic etc that are empirical etc

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          Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 11:55

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

          S7 to S9/5 etc is 100% different. Starting with the programming language used.

          There might be common parts ie some logic etc that are empirical etc

          Purely out of interest, if you are permitted to share. What programming languages are used on the S5/S9?

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
            last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 12:03

            @Aleksander-H from what I have “fished” is basically C++/Assembly . ITs completely a Suunto thing.

            But I am not sure about the UI etc. That I have no clue. Could be anything from xml/html to QT but I would doubt about QT.

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              Jamie BG Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
              last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 12:21

              @Brad_Olwin - and I think this is partially what causes a lot of the confusion when comparing to the rest of the S range - it has same look, the app looks similar; in fact everthing pretty much says its the same line; so users of the other models expect similar functionality.
              Suunto may have been better off giving it another designator to point out it really isn’t part of the same line.

              Saying that I still think they should provide the missing pieces - simply from a strategic market perspective and the opportunity to differentiate themselves and own that growing market share. I could understand if this was a cheaper product where that investment may not make sense, but when viewing the market share/competing models this is a premium product, a differentiator and would benefit covering the gaps that are missing compared to competitor models.

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                Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 12:32

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                @Aleksander-H from what I have “fished” is basically C++/Assembly . ITs completely a Suunto thing.

                But I am not sure about the UI etc. That I have no clue. Could be anything from xml/html to QT but I would doubt about QT.

                Do you happen to know if the dev team find development on Wear OS to be easier than on platforms such as S5/S9, or merely different?

                Sorry. This is the last non-topic related question I’ll ask here 😆

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
                  last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 12:34

                  @Aleksander-H I would bet its easier on wearOS when you are building something new.

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                    Egika Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 12:37

                    there once was a success story online from a small company which presented their coding base was being used in Suunto Spartan.
                    It has now disappeared from their website - and I can’t find it right now. maybe someone still remembers?

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                      freeheeler
                      last edited by 24 Sept 2022, 21:49

                      @sartoric
                      this link doesn’t directly answer the question from @Ricardo-Rodríguez … it is an old thread and since then Suunto has made progress in the interval section.
                      it is not very obvious to everyone what models are compatible with Suunto Plus Guides.
                      I don’t have an S7 anymore, but if I get it right, Suunto Plus Guides and Features are only available for S3, 5 and 9.
                      Hence: in my understanding it is not possible to setup interval training as we see it in other Suunto models.
                      However @Brad_Olwin suggested to look for 3rd party apps, maybe this helps @Ricardo-Rodríguez ?

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                        sartoric Moderator @freeheeler
                        last edited by sartoric 25 Sept 2022, 09:06

                        @freeheeler said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                        However @Brad_Olwin suggested to look for 3rd party apps, maybe this helps @Ricardo-Rodríguez ?

                        That’s the main answer, for S7, imho

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                          jsuarez Bronze Member
                          last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 09:14

                          S7 owners are probably as screwed as Spartans and previous generations. Don’t expect anything from Suunto.

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                            sartoric Moderator @jsuarez
                            last edited by sartoric 25 Sept 2022, 09:19

                            @jsuarez said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                            S7 owners are probably as screwed as Spartans and previous generations. Don’t expect anything from Suunto.

                            Well, I don’t feel screwed, maybe unlucky because of the old hardware, but not screwed.
                            I just miss the good’ol planner, that I still hope in it’s comeback 🙂

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                              Ricardo Rodríguez @freeheeler
                              last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 18:25

                              @freeheeler said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                              Suunto Plus Guides

                              Thanks, @freeheeler. When I try to set up structured work, I received a brief pop up message saying “watch is not compatible”: Suunto is informing me, but perhaps they can be a bit clearer.

                              Please, what I should expect when I select Running Interval mode available in my watch?

                              Thanks!

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                                freeheeler @Ricardo Rodríguez
                                last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 18:32

                                @Ricardo-Rodríguez said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                                Please, what I should expect when I select Running Interval mode available in my watch?

                                what do you mean? the question is not clear to me.
                                does SA say you can select intervals for the watch?

                                living sideways

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                                  Ricardo Rodríguez @Brad_Olwin
                                  last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 18:32

                                  @Brad_Olwin, please, have you succeeded to find a third party application to manage interval training with your S7? Thanks!

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