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    • TonyGT Offline
      TonyG Silver Members
      last edited by TonyG

      Another Blog Montre cardio GPS usage video (French - but can do auto subtitles)

      https://youtu.be/up2wkminOio

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        Bj Fi @TonyG
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        Here’s a vid from today in German by DNA - DailyNerdAlert, which supports multiple languages for subtitles: https://youtu.be/EtB6pvUQOk4

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          Bj Fi @TrailEyes
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          @TrailEyes said in Reviews and videos:

          In his review of the Coros Apex 2, DesFit includes the S9PP in his testing batch. I’m colorblind, so I have a tough time seeing where the 9PP line is compared with the others, but at least you can get an idea of how it stacks up against the Apex 2, Apex 2 Pro, and the Enduro 2.

          https://youtu.be/A8xmu2ptsCI

          9PP seemed to outperform the Coros watches at least.

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          • mikekoski490M Offline
            mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Bj Fi
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            @Bj-Fi Agree. Suunto did OK on most of DesFit GPS tests both for distance and tracking, but wrist based OHR while running looks like it could be improved.

            Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

            Current: Suunto Race Ti

            Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

            Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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              Bj Fi @mikekoski490
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              @mikekoski490 yup, though I still maintain that for extremely accurate HR one should use a chest strap…

              Also surprised you hadn’t linked the 5krunner review here considering it looked like you had commented it. As in this one

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                altcmd Silver Members @Bj Fi
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                I am rather surprised how DCR, DesFit or ChaseTheSummit have no video out yet. There is a review from RunTesters but they too seem to be Garmin fanboys and are not too positive on their experience with the S9PP. So odd that they have a review out but none of the more visible channels. Probably a hold from Suunto?!?

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                • DMytroD Offline
                  DMytro @altcmd
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                  @altcmd well, runtesters also mentioned that it was a preview rather than a review. And they were more positive of s9pp than of s5p.

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                  • ? Offline
                    A Former User
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                    La Suunto qu’on voulait tous.

                    https://youtu.be/up2wkminOio

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                    • TrailEyesT Offline
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                      One thing to note is that, at least in the U.S., Suunto (or Suunto’s parent company) chose to let the old PR agency go and only very recently published the name of the new agency. I wouldn’t be surprised if the company re-evaluated the PR and marketing in other parts of the world and changed out some of the agencies it used.

                      As a journalist, I always used to get embargoed Suunto press releases and other preview info, but I heard nothing related to the release of the S9PP. Maybe the new PR agency(ies) is still getting up to speed, or maybe they’re doing a whole new approach and not caring as much about pushing traditional outreach methods, including the popular reviewers. Afterall, it’s been awhile since DC, Des or CtS have had a whole lot of great things to say about Suunto’s new wearables.

                      Suunto Vertical / 9 Peak Pro (gifted away) / 9 Baro / 5 Peak (lost on adventure) / Vector
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                      Trail Runner / Hiker / Kickboxer
                      Instagram: @rytipps

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                      • herlasH Offline
                        herlas Silver Members
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                        There are countries that don’t have S9PP on their Suunto site shown at all, e.g Mexico, not sure why’s that though

                        SRS Ti
                        A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
                        Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                          lexterm77 Bronze Member @TrailEyes
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                          @TrailEyes

                          One way you can see the effect on YT reviewers on sales. Give them one to review, then one without while keeping (imagining) all other things are same. If you eliminate reviewers but sales are good, means they make a huge influence (not).

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                          • TrailEyesT Offline
                            TrailEyes Gold Members
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                            DesFit’s review is up: https://youtu.be/9xaidb98fDs

                            Suunto Vertical / 9 Peak Pro (gifted away) / 9 Baro / 5 Peak (lost on adventure) / Vector
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                            Trail Runner / Hiker / Kickboxer
                            Instagram: @rytipps

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                            • mikekoski490M Offline
                              mikekoski490 Bronze Member @TrailEyes
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                              @TrailEyes Thanks. It was an OK review and the GPS stats are impressive. I dont agree on the lack of features though compared to Garmin/Coros. Most people come to SUUNTO because of its simpler and on task UI as opposed to everything and the kitchen sink. I also dont agree on price - the cost to 1. Make it in Finland and 2. SUUNTO’s dedication to reducing its carbon footprint - are value adds.

                              Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                              Current: Suunto Race Ti

                              Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                              Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                              • dcrainmakerD Offline
                                dcrainmaker Bronze Member @altcmd
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                                @altcmd said in Reviews and videos:

                                I am rather surprised how DCR, DesFit or ChaseTheSummit have no video out yet. There is a review from RunTesters but they too seem to be Garmin fanboys and are not too positive on their experience with the S9PP. So odd that they have a review out but none of the more visible channels. Probably a hold from Suunto?!?

                                Holy moly, just catching up on all the comments here. I think there’s a lot of tinfoil’ing going on, on why various reviewers haven’t had things up yet. I can promise you, the simple answer from all of us, collectively, is: We’re swamped.

                                Just a quick recap of the last 6 weeks in my camp alone:

                                Apple Watch SE V2
                                Apple Watch Series 8
                                Apple Watch Ultra
                                COROS APEX 2
                                COROS APEX 2 Pro
                                COROS Pod V2
                                DJI Action 3
                                DJI Mavic 3 Classic
                                Fitbit Sense 2
                                Fitbit Inspire 3
                                Google Pixel Watch
                                GoPro Hero 11 Black
                                GoPro Hero 11 Mini
                                Garmin MARQ 2
                                Garmin Messenger
                                Suunto 9 Peak Pro
                                Wahoo ROAM V2
                                Wahoo KICKR Bike V2
                                Zwift Hub Trainer

                                And that’s just all the dedicated reviews or deep-dive previews. That ignores other things like major firmware updates for products from a variety of companies, news stories, and whatever else I’ve forgotten. All while crossing oceans for meetings/product demo’s/etc, now 4 round trips in that same 6-7 weeks. Not to mention actually doing the whole swim/bike/run/hike/etc thing that folks here want. Lastly, that ignores things I’m working on that haven’t been released yet.

                                My written review is basically set minus dragging some more photos over, waiting on an answer on one thing, but it doesn’t change anything meaningfully. Might drop tonight, maybe tomorrow morning, haven’t quite decided yet. Unsure where I film and fit in a video review this week. We’ll see.

                                P.S. - I really don’t care about affiliate link availability or such. They make zero impact in my decision making process for a review. In general, my order is simple:

                                1. Try to hit the embargo
                                2. Failing that, try to get really close to hitting the embargo, but a bit late
                                3. Failing that still, then I’ll usually re-order to hit whatever the next product embargo is in my queue, while putting whatever product didn’t get out yet into the queue based on popularity/interest.
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                                • dcrainmakerD Offline
                                  dcrainmaker Bronze Member @dcrainmaker
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                                  @dcrainmaker Oh, and one more thing - for almost every one of those line items above, remember that almost all of those have not one, but two things: A full in-depth written review (10,000-20,000), and a full in-depth YouTube review. Some also have beginners guides, secondary videos, etc…

                                  I aim hard to have both video/post, but when time gets tight, I try and deliver on the platform (written or video) that attracts the most attention/interest for that specific product. In the case of Suunto, it’s currently written. Whereas inversely in the case of GoPro/DJI, it’s YouTube.

                                  Cheers!

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                                    A Former User @dcrainmaker
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                                    @dcrainmaker thanks. how meaningful are tests straight after introduction from a watch technical pow over lifetime? we all know, that watches are improved over time, also GPS, HR…

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                                      Bj Fi @dcrainmaker
                                      last edited by Bj Fi

                                      @dcrainmaker thanks for the time to make it over here to reply! Been paying attention to the queue (Instinct Xover and Ignite 3 hitting the air Tue and Wed I assume).

                                      Just one comment from a loyal viewer: the videos are valuable for seeing how the UI works and that’s at least why I was waiting for more videos post resale firmware updates. Des covered this pretty nicely today. Still looking forward to that vid on your end as well!

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                                      • dcrainmakerD Offline
                                        dcrainmaker Bronze Member @Guest
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                                        @mountainChris Ultimately, the way I see it, once a company starts shipping a watch, they’re taking consumer’s money in exchange for what they deem as an acceptable product. And thus, that’s typically when I aim for my reviews to be released (and generally on final firmware/hardware).

                                        Sometimes, we see improvements - either in bug fixes, or things like accuracy. Sometimes, we don’t. Usually, we see improvements in bug fixes relatively quickly, which is why I often provide color on whether or not I think a bug is easily fixable or not.

                                        However, for accuracy, it’s anyone’s guess. That comes down to many factors that’s very hard to predict. A manufacturer could be at the end of the ability of that component, and thus, more time won’t really solve it. Whereas other times, it’s a brand new component - and more time will usually make things better. I often add historical data here, and notables about the components in question.

                                        Ultimately though, I’ve long held to the line that once a product is released, that’s the book we judge it by - good or bad. We can check again down the road, but companies should learn to release products when they’re ready. For the most part, Suunto usually does that actually.

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                                          A Former User @dcrainmaker
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                                          @dcrainmaker thanks, yes you are right. When products got shipped, improvements should be felt by customer from previous watch. Having a greatly improvable watch in the beginning with flaws is extremely customer dissatisfactioning for spending money and could lead to sending it back. Just to rely on SW improvements is thin ice when it is too shaky at the beginning. So thanks for sharing, good pow, great videos!

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                                            mikekoski490 Bronze Member @dcrainmaker
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                                            @dcrainmaker Thanks so much for your clarification for the SUUNTO crowd here. I have been reading your reviews for a long time, and they absolutely help me make informed decisions, and Im sure everyone appreciates the time it takes for you to provide this so thank you. I was kinda wondering about your list of reviews once I saw the updates from Coros last few weeks, then minimally Garmin and Polar this week. I had no idea the review list was so much longer. Cheers.

                                            Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                                            Current: Suunto Race Ti

                                            Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                                            Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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