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    DMytro @MKPotts
    last edited by 4 Jan 2023, 22:26

    @MKPotts said in Maximum activity duration (storage space):

    It couldn’t accurately display a route track, so was of little use for detailed night navigation (often at least 30-40m off the actual route)

    Don’t know about s9p, but my s9 often has the same behavior in the mountains due to the GPS reception quality. On the flat/open areas it obviously performes much better, rarely diverging too far off trail.

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      MKPotts Bronze Member @DMytro
      last edited by 4 Jan 2023, 22:37

      @DMytro
      I’ve not had that problem with my S9B or S9P.
      With the Enduro, that definitely wasn’t the problem. If I followed a path and ignored the route track, the breadcrumbs showed exactly where I’d been (so gnss signal was good). It was the uploaded track that was wrong because the watch was removing many of the track points. This would happen with any gpx track I uploaded that was more than about 30-40km, no matter how I created it or transferred it to the watch.

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        DMytro @MKPotts
        last edited by 4 Jan 2023, 22:40

        @MKPotts ah ok, I see. So it is not quite the same problem I’ve had.

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          thanasis Bronze Member @DMytro
          last edited by 5 Jan 2023, 21:55

          So based on this thread
          What is the suggested approach for a multi day activity? End and save the activity per day ? I assume the save would apply to s9p which I have.

          How can you merge the parts afterwards?
          Also , if you don’t have coverage on your phone will you be able to process those saves ?

          Thanks

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            isazi Moderator @thanasis
            last edited by 5 Jan 2023, 22:00

            @thanasis you can sync activities with SA also if you don’t have internet connection.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

            Blog: isazi's home

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              thanasis Bronze Member @isazi
              last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 08:35

              @isazi said in Maximum activity duration (storage space):

              @thanasis you can sync activities with SA also if you don’t have internet connection.

              Thanks @isazi , shall I assume that for the rest is as I mention?
              so saving them (stop it ,save, synchronise) on a daily basis?

              but on the merging of the parts?

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                freeheeler @thanasis
                last edited by freeheeler 1 Jun 2023, 09:23 6 Jan 2023, 09:21

                @thanasis
                I wonder why you want to have one activity if a multi day activity is done on different days with dinner and sleep in between? Don’t get me wrong, everyone has his/her own process and philosophy.
                personally I would record day by day and if you want to look at your entire track, load all relevant activities into quantified-self.io and merge them.

                living sideways

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                  Likarnik Bronze Member @freeheeler
                  last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 09:46

                  @freeheeler there is a difference between for example Moab 240 and Marathon Des Sables. Moab 240 - one activity, Marathon Des Sables - six activities 🙂 Btw, I’m far for competing in those races, just an example how I would like to have them stored 🙂

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                    DMytro @freeheeler
                    last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 09:46

                    @freeheeler I bet 200k in one go looks more impressive in SA than 4x50km haha.
                    But apart from that I think at such severe level of tiredness one may as well forget to finish/start an activity, so it’s more for a peace of mind I suppose.

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                      isazi Moderator @thanasis
                      last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 09:49

                      @thanasis you would need to export the FIT files and stitch them together somewhere else, then import them back in SA.

                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                      Blog: isazi's home

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                        Likarnik Bronze Member @isazi
                        last edited by Likarnik 1 Jun 2023, 09:54 6 Jan 2023, 09:54

                        @isazi and lose data by design 😞
                        https://forum.suunto.com/topic/8404/original-suunto-fit-file-loses-too-many-stuff/4?_=1672998761998

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                          freeheeler @Likarnik
                          last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 10:04

                          @Likarnik
                          I am aware for this topic for races. But when I go on a skitour for multiple days and it is not a race, personally I don’t see a reason why multiple days should be one activity… maybe what @DMytro says 😜
                          I know people who record the commute there and back in one activity… but in between there is 10h of being at work 🤷 again: philosophy question 👍

                          living sideways

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                            isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                            last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 10:06

                            @freeheeler I am with you here. If I wanted to do a race of this kind, I would like to have a single activity. But my usual multi-day activity is climbing/hiking/mountaineering and I consider it a collection of daily activities, because I eat and sleep in between 🙂

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                              Likarnik Bronze Member @isazi
                              last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 10:09

                              @isazi @freeheeler I agree with you on multi day trips, but as far as I understand, @MKPotts is talking about races

                              @freeheeler philosophy question? Maybe we should include ski touring/backcountry skiing/skimo in here😂

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                                isazi Moderator @Likarnik
                                last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 10:11

                                @Likarnik yes, and for that unfortunately we cannot go more than ~70 hours apparently. Future watches may be different in this regard.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  freeheeler @Likarnik
                                  last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 10:19

                                  @Likarnik
                                  you’re right @MKPotts asked for that, but I was more focusing on the request from @thanasis , since the request from @MKPotts is not solved, but at least answered 🙂

                                  … skitouring… well, priority number one is: we desperately need snow, everything else is priority number 2 or 3 🙈
                                  I use skitouring for telemark skitours and snowboard tours (no splitboard) and I’m fine with that. The activity basically is the same: sweating heavily uphills and grinning from one ear to the other on the downhill 😁

                                  living sideways

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                                    DMytro @isazi
                                    last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 11:11

                                    @isazi should we start an s9ppp thread already? XD

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                                      MKPotts Bronze Member @Likarnik
                                      last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 12:44

                                      @Likarnik said in Maximum activity duration (storage space):

                                      @isazi @freeheeler I agree with you on multi day trips, but as far as I understand, @MKPotts is talking about races

                                      Yes, I was talking only about races. If doing a multiday trip (e.g. backpacking, I can’t ski!), I’d want it as separate activities. So agree with all the comments.
                                      Also agree there are workarounds for long races - saving, syncing, merging later etc - but they have downsides (especially when you’re sleep-deprived!).
                                      I know very little about the design limitations and trade-offs with watches, file management etc, so would be interested to know why activity storage is still even a consideration on modern devices. Is the fit file size in SA indicative of storage needed on the device? If so, then looking at file sizes for some of my 12-24hr races, suggests a 120hr activity would only be about 10MB. Is that more challenging than it sounds?

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                                        isazi Moderator @MKPotts
                                        last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 12:49

                                        @MKPotts it is challenging only in the way that current Suunto watches have very little storage available, so nothing can be done with current models I’m afraid.

                                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                        Blog: isazi's home

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @MKPotts
                                          last edited by 6 Jan 2023, 12:51

                                          @MKPotts I used an Epix 2 for 8 months and had similar experiences but nothing as long as you have done. I sold my Epix 2.

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