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    • jjpazJ Offline
      jjpaz Bronze Member @Egika
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      @Egika Thanks for your reply. That’s a good explanation, my post is only to ask if that’s a regular behaviour.
      I understand that it’s OK and is the correct behaviour at the start of the activity but it’s a bit surprising 😁

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        dombo Bronze Member @Egika
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        @Egika hm, as I have pre-start screen, with shown heart rate, sensors connected and GPS fixed, I don’t see any need and reason to low-pass filter of these data on the beginning of the activity itself.

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        • jjpazJ Offline
          jjpaz Bronze Member
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          I’ve been reviewing old activities (february 2022) and the behavior is the same, delay 10seconds after pushing start button. Perhaps now is 2-3 seconds slower 😄

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          • zhang965Z Offline
            zhang965
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            S9pp here, my watch doesn’t freeze in the beginning but the activity graph, it begins in 30m
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              zhang965 @Egika
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              @Egika said in Delay between the start of activity and the start of sensors:

              @jjpaz just adding some guessing here:
              Some of those values need to be low pass filtered. Otherwise you would see just jittering and noisy signals.
              Depending on the time constant of those low pass filters, data will be ready to be displayed after a few seconds.
              Not sure if this explains everything you have been observing.

              Not for my case, I begin running 5s before hitting the button, so my speed should not be low enough to be filtered

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              • Mario MalčakM Offline
                Mario Malčak @jjpaz
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                @jjpaz Hi, I noticed the samo after the last update. I connected it with watch restarting in activity (there is another whole topic about it in this forum). I’ve noticed that if I start running immediately after hitting start before it reeds all the sensors that my watch restarts. If I wait for 20-30 seconds than it doesn’t restart.
                Anyhow it’s all so annoying after this software update. I never know will my S9B work or not when I go running

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                  jjpaz Bronze Member @zhang965
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                  @zhang965 Same behavior, so this is the standard working mechanism for starting activities in Suunto watches.
                  I don’t know how it works in other brands, it’s just my own curiosity.

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                    this behviour was there since 2016 afaik (Spartans). We have a starting filter to remove any anomalies from starting without speed (difficult gps situation)

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                      jjpaz Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks! Curiosity satisfied! 😊

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                        Egika Platinum Member @zhang965
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                        @zhang965 said in Delay between the start of activity and the start of sensors:

                        @Egika said in Delay between the start of activity and the start of sensors:

                        @jjpaz just adding some guessing here:
                        Some of those values need to be low pass filtered. Otherwise you would see just jittering and noisy signals.
                        Depending on the time constant of those low pass filters, data will be ready to be displayed after a few seconds.
                        Not sure if this explains everything you have been observing.

                        Not for my case, I begin running 5s before hitting the button, so my speed should not be low enough to be filtered

                        By filtering, I don’t mean to discard data that is below or above a certain threshold.
                        A low pass filter basically needs to smaple data for a certain time before yielding output data.

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                          dombo Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos why you don’t use starting filter from the data from pre-start screen, where sensors are connected and gps fixed? by hitting start it means to start. not to start to prepare for start. I also don’t like this, as for races it is useless.

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                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                            There is room for improvement that is true. I hear you

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