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Preference for a 3- or 5-Button Configuration?

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    TonyG Silver Members @Egika
    last edited by TonyG 5 Nov 2023, 12:49 11 May 2023, 12:47

    @Egika I have had the Coros Apex Pro, and the rotating button on that got gunked up with fine silt (work in intertidal sediments) and refused to turn, took only one outing in that environment to convince me that rotating buttons were not suitable for me 🙂 I currently use a Garmin and 5 button or three doesnt bother me either way so long as the UI can navigated with ease, if I had to Pick then Three with Touchscreen as per Suunto solution.

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      freeheeler @TrailEyes
      last edited by 11 May 2023, 12:48

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        Ɓukasz Szmigiel
        last edited by 11 May 2023, 12:50

        The only thing I miss from my S5 after switching to S9PP is being unable to cycle back screens during the workout. This is insane when having an active navigation, 3 screens and an S+. The way I used to operate S5 is by having the most useful data screen as the last one before the navigation, which allowed me to simply switch +1 or -1 for most of the time. I can’t do this with S9 series.

        3 buttons is fine but I’d like Suunto to come up with a solution to this particular problem while having only 3 buttons.

        S9PP 2.40.44

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          DMytro
          last edited by 11 May 2023, 12:57

          What some other people mentioned: dedicated ‘back’ button and switch to rhe previous screen in workout would be nice. Hence, 4 buttons for me I guess.
          Or, what I’d prefer even more is a rotating crown, like Coros has. That opens up the other two buttons to be ‘select’ and ‘back’. If the crown is also clickable, then even more functionality would fit.

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            Freezer Bronze Member @Ɓukasz Szmigiel
            last edited by 11 May 2023, 13:08

            @Ɓukasz-Szmigiel @isazi in the current 3 button configuration a “medium” long press of the middle button could be used to move back a screen (up until you hold the button long enough to enter options).

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              Kurt68
              last edited by 11 May 2023, 13:09

              3 👍 😀

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                Ɓukasz Szmigiel @Freezer
                last edited by 11 May 2023, 13:19

                @Freezer I was also thinking about double click. But that would interfere with instances of clocking three or four times in a row.

                But holding for back is not a bad idea. There’s an animation running when you hold the middle button. It could be redesigned to show what action a hold would trigger.

                S9PP 2.40.44

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                  A Former User @Ɓukasz Szmigiel
                  last edited by 11 May 2023, 13:23

                  5 button for me

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                    isazi Moderator
                    last edited by 11 May 2023, 13:42

                    I do not have a strong preference for buttons, but I would not give up on touchscreen. Since moving to the S9B I realized that for many things a touchscreen is more convenient than buttons.

                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                    Blog: isazi's home

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                      northeast_trekker Bronze Member
                      last edited by 11 May 2023, 14:00

                      I have used watches with 3 button plus touchscreen (Suunto Spartan and S9B) and 4 buttons (S7) and 5 buttons no touchscreen (Wahoo Rival) and I can definitely say although I think the 3 button approach works for the traditional Suunto sports app UI with breadcrumb navigation, I much prefer the 4 or 5 button approach. Having that extra button or two helps in some very tangible and practical ways esp when you introduce maps and the zoom functionality that becomes that much more information-giving.

                      • dedicated backlight button is very nice, adds options for user to have more control over the watch

                      • dedicated back button is just nice when you don’t want to swipe screen. on older 3 button devices I never used the long middle button hold.

                      • adding a 4 or 5 button layout adds ability for hotkeys. whereas current 3 button really limits because long hold of upper right is dedicated to a soft reset, middle button hold is (or was in old UI) dedicated to a quick menu start.

                      I agree with the reviewers, Suunto needs to add more buttons to compete and open up their UI to be more flexible esp now with maps. having to long hold to zoom out seems like a pain compared to how S7 worked with map zoom.

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                        Highlands @northeast_trekker
                        last edited by 11 May 2023, 14:15

                        @northeast_trekker I find the 5 buttons layout better for my personal needs. I use the touch when working with the maps.

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                          last edited by 11 May 2023, 16:02

                          3 by far.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                            last edited by 11 May 2023, 16:06

                            Like every time I try to use a 5 button watch I am like WHY?

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                              mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Egika
                              last edited by mikekoski490 5 Nov 2023, 19:43 11 May 2023, 16:13

                              @Egika I had the rotating crown on the Coros Vertix 2 and it was only ok at first but after awhile was a bit of a pain. It has to be unlocked to work of course so it doesn’t inadvertently scroll, so to do any functions you had to press it in for 3 seconds first, THEN scroll. It would be like if Suunto buttons were always locked, and you had to hold one of them down for 3 seconds every time to use the watch. đŸ€·

                              EDIT: I meant rotating crown not bezel (changed above)

                              Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                              Current: Suunto Race Ti

                              Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @TrailEyes
                                last edited by 11 May 2023, 19:34

                                @TrailEyes It is hard enough to remember what the 3 buttons do after running a full day and night
.5 are impossible. I would end up stopping my race or worse.

                                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                  cemoi71 @Brad_Olwin
                                  last edited by 11 May 2023, 21:19

                                  @Brad_Olwin 👍 or after a crossfit w.o.d. with full power, and out of breath at the end.

                                  One button rotative ? đŸ€“

                                  suunto 9 peak pro
                                  Custom Android (LineageOS)

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                                    MiniForklift Platinum Member
                                    last edited by 11 May 2023, 23:01

                                    I’ll be upgrading to the Vertical very soon, I currently have an S9B (3 buttons) and a Garmin Enduro (5 buttons)

                                    FWIW I prefer the 3 button layout

                                    SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                      aroo7 Bronze Member @Ɓukasz Szmigiel
                                      last edited by 12 May 2023, 08:22

                                      @Ɓukasz-Szmigiel It annoys me too, especially when I want to check the route and go back to the data fields.
                                      therefore not 3, not 5, but 4 😉

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                                        Ɓukasz Szmigiel @aroo7
                                        last edited by 12 May 2023, 10:48

                                        @aroo7 when outside the workout, holding the middle button acts as a back button. Why not make it the same in the workout, with opening options only on really long hold.

                                        S9PP 2.40.44

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                                          DMytro @Ɓukasz Szmigiel
                                          last edited by 12 May 2023, 14:52

                                          @Ɓukasz-Szmigiel I feel like it’s impractical. However, this would be a reasonable workaround in present watches. Yet if I were to imagine a new watch from suunto, I wouldn’t mind a dedicated button.

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