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    Preference for a 3- or 5-Button Configuration?

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    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
      Łukasz Szmigiel
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      What if we get an ability to simply turn the touchscreen on and off during the workout? So when it starts raining it’s not a problem to disable it. Like - make it a separate option in workout settings that’s not tied to battery modes.

      S9PP 2.40.44

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        aligigi Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
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        @Łukasz-Szmigiel I think the watch uses more battery with the touchscreen on.

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          A Former User @Łukasz Szmigiel
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          @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Preference for a 3- or 5-Button Configuration?:

          What if we get an ability to simply turn the touchscreen on and off during the workout?

          Here, hear! Honestly I was sure I remembered seeing Enable Touch toggle in the activity options, but apparently that was wishful thinking. Or was it? I get why you might want to lock the screen for some of the activities, but I totally agree there’s no reason this should be the case for all activities. Let the user decide!

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          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
            Brad_Olwin Moderator @dcrainmaker
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            @dcrainmaker I agree, a dedicated back press is needed. I would prefer to keep the buttons and have a long press of a button allow backwards scrolling.

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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            • ChrisAC Offline
              ChrisA Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
              last edited by ChrisA

              @Brad_Olwin yes, me too. I would love to have it opposite to the index finger button (so basically on the lower left side). For me that’s the antagonist to pressing ‘ok’ / confirming etc. As @dcrainmaker said, if the system is not consistent, it will always bother you, either because it takes too long, or - in my case - I just forget how it works, which ends in desperately pressing all buttons for me

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              • Tomas5T Offline
                Tomas5
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                I prefer 5 buttons overt 3+ touch screen.

                Reasons:

                1. i hate fingerprints on screen
                2. buttons works with gloves
                3. buttons works with wet hands in pool
                4. buttos have better feedback
                5. don’t need to look at all to be able to do some basic things with buttons
                6. with small touch screen is hard to “touch” correct button, but thats more general, watch UI are usually designed to work well.
                7. some watch has problem with unwanted presses/scrolls when screen is wet

                I prefer touch screens on smartphone, tablet, dslr (only for touch and drag focus) but other than that i hate touch screens. Especialy on laptops, or in cars. It distracts attention, and is dangerouse in cars to adjust temperature or volume on touch screen because you must look at it, but with hardware controls you can always do it just by hands without looking at it.

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                • mikekoski490M Offline
                  mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Tomas5
                  last edited by mikekoski490

                  @Tomas5 I take it you will not be getting a Suunto Vertical then given your post 😅 🤣…:

                  … *i prefer 5 buttons overt 3+ touch screen.

                  … i hate fingerprints on screens

                  … i hate touch screens (with small touch screen)*

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                  • MiniForkliftM Offline
                    MiniForklift Platinum Member
                    last edited by MiniForklift

                    I do like having the option of a touchscreen although TBH I rarely use it. I still prefer the 3 button layout although I am all for having a dedicated back button. I think having a back button that doubled up as a power on/off button by the way of a long press would be great

                    SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                    • Tomas5T Offline
                      Tomas5 @mikekoski490
                      last edited by Tomas5

                      @mikekoski490 well, todays trend is touch screens. I think in few years when i will need a new watch, there would be no other option. I will adjust my preferences, but it would be painfull, especialy fingerprints and wet hands, rain, water. But for now i have S5. I have it only for 2 years so it must survive at least another 2. So for now i don’t plan to buy anything new.

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                      • Tomas5T Offline
                        Tomas5
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                        And how is it wil vertical anyway? Do i need to use touch screen or is possible to do every possible action with just 3 buttons? In that case it would be OK even with 3 button only for me 😉 just a little toggle switch to disable touch screen in settings.

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                        • mikekoski490M Offline
                          mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Tomas5
                          last edited by mikekoski490

                          @Tomas5 Im going for the Vertical just because Im hoping for bigger font with a brighter, bigger screen, which seems to be the case based on reviews. I really dont want to start bringing my reading glasses with me on trail runs but Im sure its inevitable. 🙄

                          FYI I have absolutely no problem with the 3 buttons on my 9PP. It has been really solid and the design and UI work together well, or you get used to the 3 buttons and how they react. I dont use the touch screen when doing an activity - buttons only and touchscreen disabled. I will want the touch screen for maps though - if I can see them! Hopefully good contrast or Ill be back to the breadcrumb black and white on my 9PP.

                          Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                          Current: Suunto Race Ti

                          Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                          Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                          • freeheelerF Offline
                            freeheeler @Tomas5
                            last edited by

                            @Tomas5
                            you can operate the watch entirely without touch with few exceptions. the watch face complications can’t be changed/cycled by buttons.

                            regarding touch screen only, I don’t see this coming any time soon. adventure watches need to operate in all kind of conditions. we use our watches not only on a sunny 30min tuesday evening run in the city… when weather gets bad, buttons are the way to go

                            living sideways

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                            • Mff73M Offline
                              Mff73 @freeheeler
                              last edited by

                              @freeheeler said in Preference for a 3- or 5-Button Configuration?:

                              @Tomas5
                              you can operate the watch entirely without touch with few exceptions. the watch face complications can’t be changed/cycled by buttons.

                              regarding touch screen only, I don’t see this coming any time soon. adventure watches need to operate in all kind of conditions. we use our watches not only on a sunny 30min tuesday evening run in the city… when weather gets bad, buttons are the way to go

                              another exception (quite annoying in case of glove usage) : switching from zoom to full track view in navigation. Only single tap on the screen enable this

                              Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                              Suunto Vertical all black
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                              Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                              • freeheelerF Offline
                                freeheeler @Mff73
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                                @Mff73
                                that’s valid for previous touch enabled watches, yes. not for Vertical

                                living sideways

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                                • Mff73M Offline
                                  Mff73 @freeheeler
                                  last edited by

                                  @freeheeler
                                  How do you know it won’t be the case for Vertical ? Will there be a special button pressing to switch from zoomed path to full navigated track? 🙄

                                  Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                  Suunto Vertical all black
                                  Wife : S9PP
                                  SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                  Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                  • freeheelerF Offline
                                    freeheeler @Mff73
                                    last edited by

                                    @Mff73
                                    2 things:

                                    • 500m is max zoom level
                                    • when you touch the map it will be to pan the map
                                      this makes tap to view full route impossible, no?

                                    living sideways

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                                    • Mff73M Offline
                                      Mff73 @freeheeler
                                      last edited by

                                      @freeheeler
                                      We will see next week 😋

                                      Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                      Suunto Vertical all black
                                      Wife : S9PP
                                      SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                      Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                      • Tomas5T Offline
                                        Tomas5 @freeheeler
                                        last edited by Tomas5

                                        @freeheeler thats great 😉 and there is no problem with touch screen when raining? I mean in watch mode, doesn’t rain create some problems?

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                                        • freeheelerF Offline
                                          freeheeler @Tomas5
                                          last edited by

                                          @Tomas5
                                          in watch mode? I would say only as bad as with any other watch 😉 when no button is pressed, nothing happens

                                          living sideways

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                                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Tomas5
                                            last edited by

                                            @Tomas5 I have not had any issues in watch mode with rain. However, I am not interacting with the watch two to three times per minute either….

                                            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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