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Water temperature ... how fast does it show the correct temperature

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    Gosem Bronze Member
    last edited by 4 Jun 2023, 11:28

    I am interested if someone could test this, or have experience with it.

    When I go for swimming or snorkeling, how fast will the vertical display/track the correct water temperature.

    The Garmin Fenix 7 takes easily at least 2-3 minutes. The Apple Watch ultra because of the temperature sensor in the glas only needs 20-30 seconds.

    Does anyone know how long the vertical needs.

    I like often to swim or to go into cold water and would also like to track the water temperature, but sometimes 2-3 minutes is too long 😉 … especially if the water only have 3-4 degrees.

    Many thanks, Martin

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      BrunoH Gold Members @Gosem
      last edited by BrunoH 6 Apr 2023, 15:14 4 Jun 2023, 15:14

      @Gosem I could present some calculation examples based on the thermodynamics laws, but the fact is that wearing the watch on a 37 celsius wrist will probably never give correct values. Unless they have finally somehow isolated the temperature component…

      Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
      Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
      Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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        Gosem Bronze Member @BrunoH
        last edited by 4 Jun 2023, 15:23

        @BrunoH
        that’s what they did with the Apple Watch Ultra …

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          Egika Platinum Member @Gosem
          last edited by Egika 6 May 2023, 12:07 5 Jun 2023, 12:06

          @Gosem It is easy to read from the activity log.
          Adjusting the reading to the actual water temperature always follows an e-function. you should be able to derive it from the graph.
          Short version: it takes approx 3mins for the temp change in my example here:
          IMG_5648.png

          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
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            wotus Bronze Member @Gosem
            last edited by wotus 6 May 2023, 16:38 5 Jun 2023, 16:35

            @Gosem The Suunto 9 and Suunto 9peak needs about 55 seconds for the first temperature data point and 1 minute for every following, with actual firmware 2.23.20. Screenshot_20230605-181007_Suunto.png

            But in the past with previous firmware it needs 10s for the first reading followed by nearly continuous measurement with changes of few seconds.

            It is not the sensor that limits but the software.

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              BrunoH Gold Members @wotus
              last edited by 5 Jun 2023, 17:57

              @wotus I think the sensor is affected by body temperature. I had S9B for a couple of years and it never showed me believable temperatures…

              Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
              Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
              Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                Egika Platinum Member @BrunoH
                last edited by 5 Jun 2023, 19:20

                @BrunoH said in Water temperature ... how fast does it show the correct temperature:

                @wotus I think the sensor is affected by body temperature. I had S9B for a couple of years and it never showed me believable temperatures…

                this is only the case when out of the water. If the watch is inside the water, there is no effect from the body left.

                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                Run Lime

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                  Egika Platinum Member @wotus
                  last edited by 5 Jun 2023, 19:20

                  @wotus question was about the Suunto Vertical.

                  t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                  Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                  Run Lime

                  W 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2023, 19:45 Reply Quote 0
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                    wotus Bronze Member @Egika
                    last edited by 5 Jun 2023, 19:45

                    @Egika It was only meant to be a comparison. Why should SV be worse in terms of temperature measurement than S9 or even Garmin F7? And such things can change with firmware updates.

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                      Gosem Bronze Member @Egika
                      last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 11:01

                      @Egika Thanks 🙂

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                        Gosem Bronze Member @wotus
                        last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 11:01

                        @wotus Thanks 🙂

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                          Ars Vitae Bronze Member @wotus
                          last edited by 12 Nov 2023, 18:14

                          @wotus I don’t think so. If the sensor is misplaced a firmware update will not help.

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                            Efejota Bronze Member
                            last edited by 18 Mar 2024, 07:50

                            A quick question.

                            I remember in the previous firmware of the S9P (Pro as well?) that checking water temperature was quite easy and fast . The screen for altitude and temperature (if I recall it correctly) quickly showed the water temperature when the watch was inmersed. Now, temperature is shown together with altitude and pressure. However, when inmersing it takes much more to show the temperature.

                            In the current version of the manual, water temperature is only referenced under the “Weather” Suunto+ app (which requires some kind of training). Is it intended to work that way and, if it were the case, is there any reason for the change in the altitude/temperature screen?

                            My user case was yesterday, trying to check the temperature of the water in a mountain river with my S9PP before putting half of my body inside. The pain in my fingers trying to have a reading was enough hint for deciding before the real temperature was reached in the watch 😊 .

                            J

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                              Piotr Grygiel
                              last edited by 26 Mar 2024, 07:02

                              In my opinion 5-6 minutes.signal-2024-03-26-075954_002.png

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                                Efejota Bronze Member @Piotr Grygiel
                                last edited by 27 Mar 2024, 10:37

                                @Piotr-Grygiel Much better with the preivous software, TBH…

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