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Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?

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    zhang965 @SuperFlo75
    last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:13

    @SuperFlo75 said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

    @Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

    @SuperFlo75 ok, really? Suunto says so? really the minimum heart rate? Interesting… then I would have actually set the watch correctly…🤔

    You can read it here…
    https://www.suunto.com/de-de/Support/Produktsupport/suunto_vertical/suunto_vertical/widgets/ressourcen/

    But it is not correct in my opinion…

    in the page, it mentioned very clearly : Rest HR

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      A Former User @GiPFELKiND
      last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:20

      @GiPFELKiND said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

      i asked suunto Support the vertical, the 9P the 9PP And the 9 Baro dont have HRV.

      https://www.suunto.com/en-nl/Support/Product-support/suunto_9_peak_pro/suunto_9_peak_pro/widgets/sleep/

      Under Sleep quality… HRV is not exposed to the users, but it is available (at least is the claim)

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        SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @zhang965
        last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 17:54

        @zhang965 Yes, and the Rest HR is not the minimum HR during Night…
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          zhang965 @SuperFlo75
          last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 18:35

          @SuperFlo75 said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

          @zhang965 Yes, and the Rest HR is not the minimum HR during Night…
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          we are messed up

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            Sascha Domres Bronze Member @zhang965
            last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 18:59

            @zhang965 yes thats my Point…

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              herlas Silver Members @Sascha Domres
              last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 20:02

              @Sascha-Domres Oura ring also labels lowest HR during sleep as RHR 🤷‍♂️

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                Sascha Domres Bronze Member @herlas
                last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 09:30

                @herlas thanks…

                I chatted with the support… They want me to set the minimum heart rate… confusing…

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                  Sascha Domres Bronze Member @zhang965
                  last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 09:32

                  @zhang965 confusing…I chatted with the support… They want me to Set the minimum heart rate…

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                    freeheeler @Sascha Domres
                    last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 09:46

                    @Sascha-Domres
                    I’ve adjusted it based on your comment, let’s see how it behaves. normally I’ve used my avg sleep HR plus 10 as rest HR.
                    I now took my 7 days lowest avg sleep HR as “rest” HR

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                      Sascha Domres Bronze Member @freeheeler
                      last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 10:04

                      @freeheeler okay exciting… kinda confusing. The posts of the other users also make sense to me. I chatted with Suunto… they tell me to set the minimum HR…

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                        freeheeler @Sascha Domres
                        last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 10:06

                        @Sascha-Domres
                        it used to be my rule of thumb, but it might have changed, maybe due to an updated algo? I don’t know, but will try and let you know my impression 🙂

                        living sideways

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                          Sascha Domres Bronze Member @freeheeler
                          last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 10:09

                          @freeheeler cool thank you!

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                            A Former User @Sascha Domres
                            last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 11:15

                            @Sascha-Domres But wouldn’t lowering your RHR increase the amount of resources consumed by exertion, since you’d be even further away from a “resting” state? 🤔

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                              freeheeler @Guest
                              last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 11:44

                              @Ilya-Sul
                              makes sense, that’s why I’m trying now.
                              I’m just sitting there now, answering simple mail requests and it shows stressed… that wasn’t the case with RHR = avg sleep HR +10

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                                SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @Guest
                                last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 11:47

                                @Ilya-Sul I tried the minimum HR at night as my Rest HR and had really low gain of ressources at night and high consumption of ressources at day without great activity…

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                                  freeheeler @SuperFlo75
                                  last edited by freeheeler 16 Jun 2023, 12:17

                                  @SuperFlo75
                                  @Sascha-Domres
                                  it’s relatively reactive when you change settings.
                                  I’ve tried with lowest sleep HR (7 nights avg) and have the feeling it got worse. maybe you can also try and play with it to find your best setting?
                                  I don’t know the details behind it and didn’t have contact with support, but I for one stick to my old rule of thumb:
                                  avg sleep HR +10 = RHR

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                                    A Former User @SuperFlo75
                                    last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 16:24

                                    @SuperFlo75 Yeah, the common “workaround” is to set a higher RHR than you actually have. The problem is that that probably affects various other metrics.

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                                      Sascha Domres Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 17:28

                                      @freeheeler the support said that it takes a long time for the watch to ‘learn’… it’s important to wear the watch 24/7 for a long time… but I don’t know more details… I’ll stick with the HR minimum AVG settings for now. .

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                                        GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Sascha Domres
                                        last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 19:35

                                        @Sascha-Domres said in Ressources in Vertical /how does it works?:

                                        @freeheeler the support said that it takes a long time for the watch to ‘learn’… it’s important to wear the watch 24/7 for a long time… but I don’t know more details… I’ll stick with the HR minimum AVG settings for now. .

                                        I have the following settings: the minimal HF is not the rest HF. Trying to explain: the minimal HF in night is the HF beats per minutes in totally chilling. The rest HF you can make a measurement in daytime, sit down 5 minutes and rest. Then make HF measurement. Thats your Rest HR. In daytime you will never get your night minimal HF. so you must set the day rest HF. mine minimal at night is between 46-50. I have set my day Rest HF to 70. So i get really good stress and Ressourcen goals. Try it! Frome the medical physician the minimal HF at night can never be the same as the rest HF.

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                                          gone troppo Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
                                          last edited by 16 Jun 2023, 20:07

                                          Like zhang965 posted above I use the absolute minimum hr that I have seen at night as my resting hr which was 38 for me as per the suunto website? I read that as the minimum achieved not the average am I wrong?

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