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      Daretodream @freeheeler
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      @freeheeler I am experiencing some issues with elevation gain in general as well, especially since running with a Stryd footpod.
      Issues I am experiencing:

      • Watch showing way to much elevation gain while Stryd shows more realistic elevation gain (e.g. on really flat course watch says 230m up/down, stryd says 20m up/down and TP elevation correction shows 15m)
      • Watch shows 0 elevation gain while Stryd shows more realistic elevation gain on 1min hill intervals (e.g. watch says 0m up/down, stryd says 363m up/down and TP elevation correction shows 262m up/down)

      The values in TP before elevation correction are the values from my watch. I am not into a precision of like 1-2m elevation gain however a realistic elevation reading would be very helpful. Could you explain where the baro holes on the watch are, then I can check those. Any other ideas? Could coupling a footpod to the baro cause such a major difference?

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        isazi Moderator @Daretodream
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        @daretodream said in Problem of cumulative elevation gain:

        Could coupling a footpod to the baro cause such a major difference?

        No, the pod is not the cause of the issue (I run with it every time).

        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

        Blog: isazi's home

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Daretodream
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          @daretodream It is possible that the sensor hole is obstructed. Or, if there was high wind and the wind hits the sensor hole this can happen.

          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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            Vrba007 @Brad_Olwin
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            @Brad_Olwin
            Hi Brad, I experience similar problems very often.
            Elevation gain all of the sudden goes wild (tiny spikes)…but this is very random…some of my hiking activities don’t show this issue and some do.
            Interesting, when I’m walking a flat surface with no or a little elevation gain I haw never had problems with “spikes”.
            And the most interestig is that this “spikes” are visible only on a part of (hiking/walking) excersise…
            I think that my watch isn’t to tight round the wristand the wind wasn’t blowing nore the jacket was obstructing sesnsor holes…
            Based on my description, Do you think that this is due to dirty sensor?

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              freeheeler @Vrba007
              last edited by freeheeler

              @Vrba007
              I guess the spikes are pointing downwards. if that is so, they most likely happen due to sealing effect of the baro holes on sweaty skin. a slightly higher pressure is recorded and when the pressure is relieved the alti goes up again, summing up in a higher total ascent value.
              I’ve had this happening with my S9B x-alps, too, but rarely after I knew how to wear it to avoid it.

              problem got solved with S9P’s new sensor position and I appreciate this design is carried onward to S9PP and Vertical 👌

              living sideways

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                Vrba007 @freeheeler
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                @freeheeler
                Yes, I also think that sweat was this time the reason for these problems.
                You said that knew how to wear it…what is your “secret” 🙂

                Since, I am lefthanded I wear my S9B watch on my right hand, so the sensor openings are closer to my hand/palm), and the buttons away from it…
                do you think that I should change the arm on which I wear my watch?

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Vrba007
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                  @Vrba007 @freeheeler I wear the watch on my left wrist so this could be a potential issue. The other problem I have had is wind. If fairly heavy winds hit the sensor the elevation data will be way off and you will see the spikes.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                    Vrba007 @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by Vrba007

                    @Brad_Olwin thanks for advice…I’ll test this on my next hike, and see if that solves the problem.

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                      Vrba007 @Vrba007
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                      @Vrba007 maybe an offtopic, but how do I attach image on my post?
                      When I press “add image” button i get this: ![alt text](image url)…

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                        zhang965 @Vrba007
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                        @Vrba007 said in Problem of cumulative elevation gain:

                        @Vrba007 maybe an offtopic, but how do I attach image on my post?
                        When I press “add image” button i get this: ![alt text](image url)…Screenshot_2023-08-21-18-56-59-81_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

                        Winners Wear Winners

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                          freeheeler @Vrba007
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                          @Vrba007
                          I used to wear my S9B fairly loose so that the holes are rarely close to my forearm. as @Brad_Olwin says, wind can be a reason, too. this will look differently on the HR graph compared to the sweat “theory”.
                          wearing the watch on the right wrist is a different story. if you wear it loose the sensor will sit on the back of your hand

                          living sideways

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                            Vrba007 @zhang965
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                            @zhang965 Screenshot_2023-08-20-16-16-17-43_b14a9358fd6881e7ef1642d19c4cec95.jpg

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                              Vrba007 @Vrba007
                              last edited by Vrba007

                              @zhang965 thanks mate 😉
                              It’s interesting though, how spikes showed on the part of a trail where I know, that I have sweated a lot…

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                                isazi Moderator @Vrba007
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                                @Vrba007 then it is quite possible that sweat got inside the baro hole, causing these continuous raise and drop in pressure. From the graph it looks that the drops are the spurious artifacts, and that would be consistent with an artificial increase of pressure due to sweat (or anything else pushing air/water inside the baro hole).

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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