Is the Vertical as sub-standard as it seems?

Tieutieu

My ambit 3 was just an awesome watch…unless the multiples baro sensor failures, especially in cold conditions. I never have regretted the upgrade to the S9b expect for gps accuracy.

The SV checks everything I need !

SuperFlo75

The Ambit 3 was a cool watch… I liked it very much. Writing own Apps was a nice feature… I missed it after changing to Spartan.

MiniForklift

Ambit 3 - Awesome
Spartan - Meh
S9B - I thought this was as good as it gets
SV - As good as it gets

CalRun48

@Brad_Olwin
Thank you for the helpful commentary. The 9PP has the best OHR for you. How does the 9 Peak’s OHR compare to the 9PP?

@ChrisA said in Is the Vertical as sub-standard as it seems?:

@André-Faria the ambit series seemed to be real beasts… I never have seen one in action, but they seemed to have a lot of great features. Wasn’t it considered a step backwards when the Spartan/Suunto 9 came out?

Every opinion you will see here will be different.
For me the ambit was the gold standart, precision and easy of use. 5 button layout, possibility of apps with more than one running.
Even on some blogs you see the ambit 3 still being spoken about ([5krunner](https://the5krunner.com/2023/05/04/sports-watch-gets-best-ever-gps-track/ , [Montrecardiogps 1](https://www.montre-cardio-gps.fr/les-montres-gps-de-lutmb-2022-de-fenix-7x-a-ambit3-peak/, 2)).
For me Spartan was meh. The S9 on the begining, I recall seeing quite a bit of issues on the begining, but with the time I guess they become really better.
What makes them (s9b) even better is they have full compability with suunto app and continue to get updates, making a good companion.
But this is offtopic, and worths zero to talk since suunto won’t work on any support for the ambits, and needs to focus on the actual range, because like every brand, they need cash entering by the salles of the new models.
Most people that still uses an ambit already bought a new device, which I believe for quite a bit of people, after the movescount fiasco were to choose another brand - and yes I know they did what was the best, and even provided a 30% coupon, which was welcome, but that moove took a lot of trust that people had on suunto. Hope with the recent issues with vertical and updates they have the resources to solve it asap and bring again the trust on the brand.
Because honestly speaking I never saw this forum so on fire…and I am not sure they sold so many verticals as other watches…
Time will tell. But with so many owner changes for sure it is not easy for the brand nor for the people that work there.

altcmd

@André-Faria I cannot really tell if Vertical was a commercial success but can abstract a lot by the fact that 3 month used Vertical Solar can be had for 50% discount in my local classified. On eBay people are expecting the standard Vertical to be close to €300. This is the reality outside this echo-chamber.

@altcmd said in Is the Vertical as sub-standard as it seems?:

@André-Faria I cannot really tell if Vertical was a commercial success but can abstract a lot by the fact that 3 month used Vertical Solar can be had for 50% discount in my local classified. On eBay people are expecting the standard Vertical to be close to €300. This is the reality outside this echo-chamber.

Wow, where are you based?
I check often on leboncoin (france) and vinted, and the best I have seen is like 500 for the solar and still not selling. On the other hand, strangely enough the S9B series remain expensive used (150-200 plus eur)…almost the price of new (maybe people didn’t check suunto new pricing). Spartans also maintain their prices to about 80-130eur. And for the Ambits lot of variaton, from 30 to 100 or more.

EzioAuditore

@zhang965 Hey darling, just wanted to know how are you holding up after 9h+ of no Gamin connect? Oh and second: Do you trust your health data uploaded on their services? Damn twice till now this happens but the users get: we are sorry sever outage Apple will eat them all as it seems (sorry for polluting the thread but I had to take it out of my system)

zhang965

@EzioAuditore said in Is the Vertical as sub-standard as it seems?:

@zhang965 Hey darling, just wanted to know how are you holding up after 9h+ of no Gamin connect? Oh and second: Do you trust your health data uploaded on their services? Damn twice till now this happens but the users get: we are sorry sever outage Apple will eat them all as it seems (sorry for polluting the thread but I had to take it out of my system)

Lol I didn’t notice that, I slept all day.

If you don’t trust them, you can sync your data to other services to make a back up

@EzioAuditore said in Is the Vertical as sub-standard as it seems?:

@zhang965 Hey darling, just wanted to know how are you holding up after 9h+ of no Gamin connect? Oh and second: Do you trust your health data uploaded on their services? Damn twice till now this happens but the users get: we are sorry sever outage Apple will eat them all as it seems (sorry for polluting the thread but I had to take it out of my system)

Although you have a valid point, for the good and bad with garmin you can still plug on a computer and take your workout, flash firmware etc etc…