Lactate threshold

[suzzlo]

Hi,

Can someone with a Race explain how is this Lactate Threshold working? Is this working only in running? Are the HR zones updated automatically?

Thanks

[ChrisA]

@suzzlo I thin I recall that @isazi wrote somewhere that it works automatically - just by wearing it during your workouts.

[suzzlo]

@ChrisA I would love to see a suggestion like “WOW, Congratullations! your Lactate Threshold has increased to 168bpms, Do you want me to update your HR Zones accordingly” YES PLEASE!!!

[taziden]

@suzzlo said in Lactate threshold:

@ChrisA I would love to see a suggestion like “WOW, Congratullations! your Lactate Threshold has increased to 168bpms, Do you want me to update your HR Zones accordingly” YES PLEASE!!!

And as we are dreaming, why not also updating power and pace zones

[surfboomerang]

Is it even possible to determine the lactate threshold with an optional sensor?

[suzzlo]

@taziden Is this technically possible? I mean, probably, when we detect this point, we could get the watts, and establish a Critical ower, but what about Pace? if we are up in a hill or down, the pace can be completely different.

If this is something difficult, for Power Zones, also could be done integrating the power zones definition from Stryd vote here

[isazi]

@ChrisA yes just doing activities and you get a threshold, although I prefer the S+ app

[GiPFELKiND]

@isazi said in Lactate threshold:

@ChrisA yes just doing activities and you get a threshold, although I prefer the S+ app

@isazi okay only a short question: new watch, new software, new Algorithm, new function to got Lactat Treshhold and @isazi prefer the S+ App!? Why?! Bad and ugly Algorithmu? Why you public say that you prefer the S+ App for this Lactat Treshhold measurement when the NEW inhouse Algorithm be so good!?

[zhang965]

@GiPFELKiND said in Lactate threshold:

isazi said in Lactate threshold:

ChrisA yes just doing activities and you get a threshold, although I prefer the S+ app

isazi okay only a short question: new watch, new software, new Algorithm, new function to got Lactat Treshhold and isazi prefer the S+ App!? Why?! Bad and ugly Algorithmu? Why you public say that you prefer the S+ App for this Lactat Treshhold measurement when the NEW inhouse Algorithm be so good!?

Because Suunto volunteers always tell you truth.

[wakarimasen]

@zhang965 Unfortunately, there is not a ‘yawn’ emoji. Mods: can you please add one, so that I can use it for these kind of posts

[zhang965]

@wakarimasen said in Lactate threshold:

@zhang965 Unfortunately, there is not a ‘yawn’ emoji. Mods: can you please add one, so that I can use it for these kind of posts

You’d better to learn using emoji.
here you are 🥱…

[wakarimasen]

@zhang965 A positive and helpful comment! Doesn’t that feel better? Thank you!

[zhang965]

@wakarimasen said in Lactate threshold:

@zhang965 A positive and helpful comment! Doesn’t that feel better? Thank you!

Glad to help you.

If you ask suunto team to add a new one, maybe it can take 6 months or more.

[wakarimasen]

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[ChrisA]

@wakarimasen you can block comments from users you don’t like to see -

[wakarimasen]

@ChrisA I did not know that - thank you very much!

[zhang965]

@wakarimasen said in Lactate threshold:

ChrisA I did not know that - thank you very much!

Do you need we show you how to do it with screenshots?

[Jonathan C]

@wakarimasen doesn’t surprise me coming from someone with an expletive in their bio.

[isazi]

@GiPFELKiND simple, because I believe that proper fitness tests are better than estimations. How FirstBeat and other services work is: you run normally, and they predict what your threshold would be, even if you are not running close at all to said threshold. This works in some cases, does not in others. One example is if you purposefully run in lower zones for endurance training, the algorithm will most probably give you a lower threshold than what it should be if you’re a trained amateur.
Fitness tests are designed to let you reach the threshold, so you measure it, not just predict it. Well, the tests we do outside the lab are still partially just assumptions, but they are more precise, and are the tests your coach would prescribe to assess your fitness.

There is an old discussion on the forum about the topic, I’ll link to it later.

Edit: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/5446/tests-or-not

[Likarnik]

@isazi but if you race a 10km you maybe push harder than when you are trying to reach limit alone and having S+ enabled. And if you don’t enable S+ app you don’t have your threshold updated or you have to calculate it manually. I use initervals.icu and it does this. I’m very happy when I get mail with nice ride or nice run and beat my PB or something It is very motivating for me