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      sir_max Bronze Member @Egika
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      @Egika Awesome, will be nice to hear your first impressions

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        ChrisA Platinum Member @craigeggleton
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        @craigeggleton while I understand, that one beeing dissapointed, that a product, which should be available is not and that waiting for something is never a pleasure, I don’t really understand why people are so emotionally upset about it and seemingly take this as a personal insult.

        When I go to a local Porsche, BMW, Mercedes or VW store here in Germany, I am lucky if I get the modell I want, within a few days. Normaly you wait for months! And those are German cars I want to buy in a German official supplier. Nobody would say that those companies are “jokes”, Suunto can deliver a Race Steel version within days, the Titanium version seems to be delayed, but well, it’s a special modell and even then - it is like it is. One can only speculate why the Titanium modells are not available. Maybe it’s completly not Suuntos fault, but somewhere in the shipping, delivery, customs etc. process something went wrong. Being angry and in a bad mood won’t change anything besides detoriating your health an wellness 🙂

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          logger Bronze Member @ChrisA
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          @ChrisA Thanks for bringing a bit of sanity to this thread—“omg I have to wait a few days for a new GPS watch that didn’t even exist until a few days ago” is a really puzzling response!

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            Egika Platinum Member @sir_max
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            @sir_max said in Disappointing launch:

            @Egika Awesome, will be nice to hear your first impressions

            I have been testing the Race for some months now - so no first impressions…
            I just ordered regular production watches for my family members 🙂

            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
            Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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              sir_max Bronze Member @Egika
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              @Egika Sorry, I am new to the forum - did you write somewhere what you think?

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                Egika Platinum Member @sir_max
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                @sir_max said in Disappointing launch:

                @Egika Sorry, I am new to the forum - did you write somewhere what you think?

                Welcome! 🙂

                I have not written a review or similar. Am ready to answer questions though and have already done that in other threads 🙂

                Short in short: After wearing Race on one arm and Vertical on the other for some weeks now, Vertical will soon become the watch left on the drawer at home. The screen of Race is so vivid, it is just fun to use.
                Only for ski touring in the coming winter I will most likely take the Vertical, as I think that under those bright conditions the display is at least on par and the less protruding buttons are better suited for those layers of clothes, wearing it on top of the sleeve and/or glove operation.

                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                  sir_max Bronze Member @Egika
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                  @Egika That’s great to hear - I have a few questions if you don’t mind. I briefly used the Garmin 255 and it is nice but the MIPS display wasn’t bright enough for me. I am excited to finally get a worthy successor of my trusty ambit 2.

                  • I read about speed of the device, did you notice much? It looks ok in some of the videos online.
                  • How is the weight and size of the watch? My wrists aren’t the largest so I was curious if it was comfortable to wear all the time esp. sleeping
                  • I don’t care too much for music or NFC, anything else of note that you missed about the watch?
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                    gizmo
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                    After an unsuccessful attempt to buy the titanium version, I have had the steel version for two days, but I am still curious whether the two versions differ only in weight and color or whether there are also differences in GPS and OHR accuracy.

                    I have been using Garmin, Polar, Coros and Suunto watches for 20 years for running and cycling. I currently have Suunto Race.

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                      Egika Platinum Member @gizmo
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                      @gizmo said in Disappointing launch:

                      After an unsuccessful attempt to buy the titanium version, I have had the steel version for two days, but I am still curious whether the two versions differ only in weight and color or whether there are also differences in GPS and OHR accuracy.

                      It is only weight, eMMC memory and color.
                      GPS is the same. OHR could be different to the titanium version being lighter and thus having less inertia…

                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                      Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                        gizmo @Egika
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                        @Egika Are you sure that the housing material (titanium vs. steel) will not affect GPS accuracy? And the difference in weight may affect the HR reading.

                        I have been using Garmin, Polar, Coros and Suunto watches for 20 years for running and cycling. I currently have Suunto Race.

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                          Egika Platinum Member @gizmo
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                          @gizmo said in Disappointing launch:

                          @Egika are you sure that the housing material (titanium vs. steel) will not affect GPS accuracy?

                          yes

                          And the difference in weight may affect the HR reading.

                          that’s what I wrote

                          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                            babychai Silver Members @Egika
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                            @Egika i think Vertical’s GPS accuracy is slightly better than the Race? because “Simultaneous satellite systems” for Vertical is 5 and Race is 4. In challenging environment Vertical should be better than the Race

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                              renton82 Platinum Member @babychai
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                              Ti version is now available in Sunnto store Italy, I have just bought one!

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                                Egika Platinum Member @babychai
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                                @babychai if this is not only a typo. let me check.

                                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                  colinmacdon Bronze Member @ChrisA
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                                  @ChrisA the frustration lies in that it was advertised as in stock, with 1-2 days turn around. In my case, I am in one of the markets where titanium is/was “available”. I ordered on launch day. Since then I have not received a single piece of communication of where the watch is. Suunto chat says they have no idea what the status is or any indication what is going on. I find today that my credit card has been fully charged. I reached out to Dan Suher (head of Suunto North America), he responds that the Canadian market should be good to go. Would you be satisfied?

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                                    Stoke80
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                                    @Egika

                                    As you mention ski touring: How will the the new crown of the Suunto Race behave when worn under a Jacket (for skiing or ski touring)?

                                    • What is the function of the crown during a training?
                                    • Is there a chance that the training will be interrupted or ended by accidentally pressing the button under the jacket?
                                    • Will the crown also be locked, when locking the buttons during a training?

                                    Thank you

                                    Suunto Quest / Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Sununto Spartan Sport Wrist HR / Suunto 9 Baro / Suunto 9 Peak Pro / Suunto Vertical / Suunto Race S

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                                      Egika Platinum Member @Stoke80
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                                      @Stoke80 said in Disappointing launch:

                                      @Egika

                                      As you mention ski touring: How will the the new crown of the Suunto Race behave when worn under a Jacket (for skiing or ski touring)?

                                      • What is the function of the crown during a training?

                                      Like middle button before: press to cycle the screens.
                                      And in map view rotate to zoom the map.
                                      Long press for options (where rotating the crown goes through the options menu)

                                      • Is there a chance that the training will be interrupted or ended by accidentally pressing the button under the jacket?

                                      The crown button: not really. Training will only be interrupted with the top button as before. And actually the Race’s top and bottom buttons seem to be a little less protuding.
                                      But there is a chance to change settings unintentionally by a series of long pressing, then rotating and pressing the crown again (see above).

                                      • Will the crown also be locked, when locking the buttons during a training?

                                      Yes. Like middle button before. With button lock you can still press the crown to advance through the screens. Rotation (like in map screen) and long press will be locked.

                                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                      Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                        Stoke80 @Egika
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                                        @Egika

                                        Thank you very much.

                                        Suunto Quest / Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Sununto Spartan Sport Wrist HR / Suunto 9 Baro / Suunto 9 Peak Pro / Suunto Vertical / Suunto Race S

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                                          colinmacdon Bronze Member @colinmacdon
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                                          @colinmacdon Latest update from Suunto:
                                          *I can see that your case is escalated already since yesterday when you contacted us via chat. We wait for updates form our department. We will email you when we have further updates. at this point of time I do not have any information to share. I do apologise for that, i understand the inconvenience it must be causing you.

                                          Your order is placed successfully but we do not know about the shipping deatils yet. I do understand how frustrating this might be. We have informed our department for the delay and the inconvenience it has caused you. We are still waiting for further information.

                                          We will send you an email as soon as i we ahve updates about your order*

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                                            ChrisA Platinum Member @colinmacdon
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                                            @colinmacdon you‘re right, that’s a bad customer experience and Suunto US isn’t doing a good job here. I can’t say that I had any problems like you, whenever I communicated with Suunto. Be it ordering or returning watches, everytime things went fast and without glitches. I don’t know on which date the launch in the US was, but here in Europe it was October, 17th (I guess) and if thats the same as in the US its „just“ a week - perhaps everything gets ok or at least you get a status within the next week. I understand, that you want to be informed, but at some point I would rely on the saying that „the grass won‘t grow faster, when you pull on it“ and just wait and set myself a duedate when I would go a step further, like cancelling my order and asking my credit card company not to pay the money finally separating this from „myself“ and not letting this thing capture my thoughts all the time.

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