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    David l
    last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 13:34

    So just some silly questions!

    Gave up with Suunto in 2017 and went to the dark side with Garmin. Love my current Epix Oro but the screen isn’t big enough for me to see easily without glasses whilst running. I can’t afford the 51mm so have purchased a race instead.
    I have 3 concerns that Garmin have near enough sorted but just wondering if Suunto has any suitable solutions?

    1. Being a Parkrun obsessive, is there anyway I can put a barcode on the Race. I’m totally forgetful and would end up not taking a barcode with me.

    2. What’s the workout creation like on Suunto? Garmin is relatively straight forward.

    3. Some concerns over the OHR - anyone have any major issues? I’m not too bothered by 5-7bpm out

    Also is there a flashlight process in the Race?

    Thanks in advance

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      David l
      last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 13:47

      Also would love NFC as when you’re 14m into a round, it’s easy to jump on a bus or stop at a pub if you’ve had enough!

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        taziden Gold Members
        last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 13:52

        1. Not possible to “put a barcode” on it
        2. Straightforward, either from Suunto App or from a third-party like Intervals.icu
        3. Can’t say, i’m not a Race owner (yet)

        Yes to the flashlight (same as S9PP and Vertical I think).
        Race is NFC-capable at the hardware level, but there aren’t any use of it at the software level (yet).

        S9PP

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          David l @taziden
          last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 13:54

          @taziden said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

          1. Not possible to “put a barcode” on it
          2. Straightforward, either from Suunto App or from a third-party like Intervals.icu
          3. Can’t say, i’m not a Race owner (yet)

          Yes to the flashlight (same as S9PP and Vertical I think).
          Race is NFC-capable at the hardware level, but there aren’t any use of it at the software level (yet).

          Thanks for the answers! Can you put pictures or the like on the watch as a screen do you know?

          Thanks again

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            taziden Gold Members @David l
            last edited by taziden 25 Oct 2023, 13:59

            @David-Lown said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

            Thanks for the answers! Can you put pictures or the like on the watch as a screen do you know?

            This is not possible as far as I know.

            S9PP

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              Danny poleg Silver Members @David l
              last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 14:27

              @David-Lown
              Two things -
              when checking with the heart rate strap, the measurement is accurate. just to note that there is the issue of HRV ( soon to com to 9pp & vertical)
              Regarding pictures or the like on the watch as a screen - soory no can do

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                gizmo @David l
                last edited by gizmo 25 Oct 2023, 15:15

                …

                I have been using Garmin, Polar, Coros and Suunto watches for 20 years for running and cycling. I currently have Suunto Race.

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                  gizmo @David l
                  last edited by gizmo 25 Oct 2023, 15:16

                  @David-Lown said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                  1. Some concerns over the OHR - anyone have any major issues? I’m not too bothered by 5-7bpm out.

                  I’ve had the steel version for a few days now and have done a few runs (Easy runs at a constant speed/pace, the strap was tight around wrist). Unfortunately, the OHR is rather poor. The errors sometimes reach 20-30 bpm. It is much worse than Coros Pace 3, Garmin Fenix 7, Garmin FR 955. I hope that the problem can be further improved with software updates.
                  (Incorrect measurement marked in blue)
                  1.jpg

                  I have been using Garmin, Polar, Coros and Suunto watches for 20 years for running and cycling. I currently have Suunto Race.

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                    David l @taziden
                    last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 16:53

                    @taziden said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                    @David-Lown said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                    Thanks for the answers! Can you put pictures or the like on the watch as a screen do you know?

                    This is not possible as far as I know.

                    Thanks for the answer. Do you think it will be possible in the near future?

                    Cheers

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                      Egika Platinum Member @David l
                      last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 17:35

                      @David-Lown
                      Putting pictures on the screen? I doubt that this will be high priority for a sports and training focused watch…
                      But you never know…

                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                      Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                      Run Lime

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                        taziden Gold Members @Egika
                        last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 19:23

                        @Egika said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                        But you never know…

                        Well, we’ve seen a Eurovision video song running on the Vertical, so who knows 😄

                        S9PP

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                          David l @Egika
                          last edited by 25 Oct 2023, 20:00

                          @Egika said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                          @David-Lown
                          Putting pictures on the screen? I doubt that this will be high priority for a sports and training focused watch…
                          But you never know…

                          Thanks, it’s just the barcode I’m after. I’m pretty sure when I used Suunto almost 7 years ago, there were lots of user written widgets. Given the immense screen, it would be a tad pants if we couldn’t do something, along with NFC.
                          When I run, or any type of exercise tbh, I want peace and quiet so I never take a phone with me. My little bit of me time.

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                            Luis Andés Olmedo Bronze Member @gizmo
                            last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 07:23

                            @gizmo said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                            @David-Lown said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                            1. Some concerns over the OHR - anyone have any major issues? I’m not too bothered by 5-7bpm out.

                            I’ve had the steel version for a few days now and have done a few runs (Easy runs at a constant speed/pace, the strap was tight around wrist). Unfortunately, the OHR is rather poor. The errors sometimes reach 20-30 bpm. It is much worse than Coros Pace 3, Garmin Fenix 7, Garmin FR 955. I hope that the problem can be further improved with software updates.
                            (Incorrect measurement marked in blue)
                            1.jpg

                            That was my experience with the Vertical, but only during the first 10’-15’.

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                              Egika Platinum Member @gizmo
                              last edited by Egika 26 Oct 2023, 07:45

                              @gizmo try playing with the strap tightness.
                              For myself I find that during the cooler time of the year OHR is more difficult for the watches.
                              If I now pull the strap more tight, I restrict capillary blood flow even more…

                              @Luis-Andés-Olmedo At the same time it makes sense that after like 10-15’ values become better -> body becomes warmer during workout -> capillary blood flow becomes better.

                              t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                              Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                              Run Lime

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                                gizmo @Egika
                                last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 08:50

                                @Egika said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                                @gizmo try playing with the strap tightness.
                                For myself I find that during the cooler time of the year OHR is more difficult for the watches.
                                If I now pull the strap more tight, I restrict capillary blood flow even more…

                                I will try for sure 🙂
                                From my many years of testing, I know that OHR readings are worse on cold days and when the skin sweats a lot.

                                I have been using Garmin, Polar, Coros and Suunto watches for 20 years for running and cycling. I currently have Suunto Race.

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                                  Luis Andés Olmedo Bronze Member @Egika
                                  last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 09:20

                                  @Egika said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                                  @gizmo try playing with the strap tightness.
                                  For myself I find that during the cooler time of the year OHR is more difficult for the watches.
                                  If I now pull the strap more tight, I restrict capillary blood flow even more…

                                  @Luis-Andés-Olmedo At the same time it makes sense that after like 10-15’ values become better -> body becomes warmer during workout -> capillary blood flow becomes better.

                                  Yes, I can understand that. But my F7 do not need those 10’ to proved good values…

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                                    Egika Platinum Member @Luis Andés Olmedo
                                    last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 09:32

                                    @Luis-Andés-Olmedo ok, good for this combination then, you and F7 👍

                                    My vertical does not need those 10min as well - I was just trying to explain this effect, IF it happened.

                                    t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                    Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                                    Run Lime

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                                      Luis Andés Olmedo Bronze Member @Egika
                                      last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 09:42

                                      @Egika said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                                      @Luis-Andés-Olmedo ok, good for this combination then, you and F7 👍

                                      My vertical does not need those 10min as well - I was just trying to explain this effect, IF it happened.

                                      Thanks! and good to know that the Vertical OHR works for some people 🙂

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                                        Egika Platinum Member @Luis Andés Olmedo
                                        last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 09:45

                                        @Luis-Andés-Olmedo said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                                        @Egika said in Just ordered a Race but having some doubts:

                                        @Luis-Andés-Olmedo ok, good for this combination then, you and F7 👍

                                        My vertical does not need those 10min as well - I was just trying to explain this effect, IF it happened.

                                        Thanks! and good to know that the Vertical OHR works for some people 🙂

                                        though OHR in both Vertical and Race is almost always failing on me during my bike commutes. I have yet to find a setup that makes this work - handle bar vibration seems to be extra difficult 😞

                                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                        Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                                        Run Lime

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                                          Maryn Silver Members @Egika
                                          last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 11:57

                                          @Egika

                                          polar verity sense is the answer. Much more comfortable than chest strap 🙂 . Works very well with Vertical

                                          Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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